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Russian Roulette - CCP vs. Goonswarm

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2011-10-28 19:44:11 UTC
Minta Contha wrote:
I don't want hisec to become a zone of invulnerability.

QFT.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#142 - 2011-10-28 19:54:04 UTC
there is nothing more entertaining than a thread full of bad ideas

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Lady Zarrina
New Eden Browncoats
#143 - 2011-10-28 19:54:33 UTC
All this because one tool wants to wardec e-u for free. wow

EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie

Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#144 - 2011-10-28 20:06:09 UTC
I can't believe I read all of those pages.

But wait, even if CCP is somehow being manipulated to do stupid ****, doesn't that fit perfectly with Eve's whole motif of "Play your way"?

Really, the goons have won the game; they're so far above everyone else they're actually competing with the developers to do what they want & exploit as much & many as possible. Win?

Goons, you may be A-holes, but you truly take griefing to a whole new level. You have to respect that!

The pie is a tautology

Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2011-10-28 20:15:35 UTC
CCP will never remove non-consensual PvP from high-sec. The ONLY thing I can see them doing is nerfing it to the point that it is only conducted when profitable to do so, instead of "for the lulz" or just because you want to screw someone over.
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
#146 - 2011-10-28 20:24:32 UTC
Ok, so I read through most of the thread. I read the whole article as well.

You seem to have forgotten one thing, or maybe you didn't know. See, mittens never mentioned that there are some entities in eve that stand to make a huge profit from a "shortage" of ice (rather, a lack of oversupply). If mittens is not completely daft, then he is one of those entities.

He neglected to mention that because it wouldn't be a very good "morale booster" for the goons. Either that, or he really is stupid enough to think he can remove all the ice from the game. The fact is, some select few people have enough ice to keep all of eve going for years. They are making a lot of isk right now, and they're not stupid. Keep selling just enough to keep the price at a point where people still buy it.

Aside from that, if mittens really succeeded in emptying out all the ice, then CCP could simply add some more without us having any way to prove it happened. Just make some fake characters and fake logs, voila, let there be isotopes.

Now, is highsec going to change in the near future? Probably. Is suicide ganking going to be a thing of the past? Don't think so. Not until they add some other massive mineral sink, like arenas for instance.

Stop the spamming, not the scamming!

MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#147 - 2011-10-28 20:35:57 UTC
Fille Balle wrote:
Not until they add some other massive mineral sink, like arenas for instance.


How 'bout some massive null sec wars?

Just an idea.....but it might work.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.

Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#148 - 2011-10-28 20:44:27 UTC
Hardest job in the world is trying to find any meaningful content in a Goon post
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#149 - 2011-10-28 21:00:40 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Hardest job in the world is trying to find any meaningful content in a Goon post


Poasting in a Goon Alt post.
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#150 - 2011-10-28 21:10:58 UTC
I see only one solution to this - TOTAL CIVIL WAR!!!!

The Winter Expansion should be that you log on and have two buttons - Fight for Mittani, or fight for the Ice Miners. With all of New Eden falling under two Alliances - there will be an 3pic bloodbath, and the winner determines the future of highsec and suicide ganking.

If Mittani wins, Concord is removed, and replaced by Goon Police (TM), each armed with Fleet Issue Titan. Fleet Issue Titan will have original DD mechanic restored. Local will be removed, asteroids will be removed from wormholes, and the entire game becomes 0.0. CCP Dropbear will adjust lore for RP purposes.

If the Ice Miners win, than all PvP in the game will exist in a single arena in Delve, where you must ask permission before you can lock a target and fire a weapon. The Apostle will be declared CEO of CCP, and all the gamers disgruntled with Mists of Pandaria will flee to New New Eden, where they can farm gold and /emote dance in stations. 3pic mount segways will be sold to players via NeX store, and all stations will be redecorated for each and every Holiday. Mittens and Helicity Boson will each receive a permaban from EvE and all of the interweb, and fitted with a RF ankle bracelet that scrambles all nearby WiFi signals.

Starting this Winter - your actions will finally have consequence. Welcome to the future.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary

Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#151 - 2011-10-28 21:16:42 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
I see only one solution to this - TOTAL CIVIL WAR!!!!

The Winter Expansion should be that you log on and have two buttons - Fight for Mittani, or fight for the Ice Miners. With all of New Eden falling under two Alliances - there will be an 3pic bloodbath, and the winner determines the future of highsec and suicide ganking.

If Mittani wins, Concord is removed, and replaced by Goon Police (TM), each armed with Fleet Issue Titan. Fleet Issue Titan will have original DD mechanic restored. Local will be removed, asteroids will be removed from wormholes, and the entire game becomes 0.0. CCP Dropbear will adjust lore for RP purposes.

If the Ice Miners win, than all PvP in the game will exist in a single arena in Delve, where you must ask permission before you can lock a target and fire a weapon. The Apostle will be declared CEO of CCP, and all the gamers disgruntled with Mists of Pandaria will flee to New New Eden, where they can farm gold and /emote dance in stations. 3pic mount segways will be sold to players via NeX store, and all stations will be redecorated for each and every Holiday. Mittens and Helicity Boson will each receive a permaban from EvE and all of the interweb, and fitted with a RF ankle bracelet that scrambles all nearby WiFi signals.

Starting this Winter - your actions will finally have consequence. Welcome to the future.



I'm throwing all my money at the screen and nothing is happening.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us

Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#152 - 2011-10-28 21:31:35 UTC
Baaldor wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Hardest job in the world is trying to find any meaningful content in a Goon post


Poasting in a Goon Alt post.



If you could tell me how this is a goon alt post ill give you all my isk and quit the game forever. Thats your challange for today
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#153 - 2011-10-28 21:39:52 UTC
The logical solution: Remove insurance from CONCORD deaths.
The Armageddon solution: Add ice to all CONCORD space belts. Yulai will have 30 ice mining belts.
Jita Alt666
#154 - 2011-10-28 22:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jita Alt666
Why does there need to be a solution?

To the OP: CCP will understand how removing high sec wars and ganking will increase inflation. What if the removal of higher end ice and minimising of mid level minerals from high sec was to accompany this?

What if level 4s started entering low sec more frequently?

both ideas are already floating around.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#155 - 2011-10-28 23:10:58 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
reading the first page I saw

Quote:
Hilmar has already suggested that CONCORD needs buffing to curb ganking.


what? bullshit!
Link that please, thats stupid!


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=269835#post269835


Quote:
guy on twitter:
my dad also plays (77 years old!) but is becoming increasingly annoyed at the suicide gankers
Hilmar:
do we need to take a look at some CONCORD AI upgrades to curb the ganking
reply:
I believe we need to look at it, yes


not exactly solid evidence...

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#156 - 2011-10-28 23:15:29 UTC
let's see

CONCORD instaneuts, instajams and instagibs you as soon as they're on grid, why does it need a buff at all?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#157 - 2011-10-28 23:16:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Trainwreck McGee wrote:
This was garbage. I cant believe i read it all.

Why is it not possible that Goons are just doing this b/c they are bored and so they are RP'ing that they can only get sustenance from miner tears?


whats funny about that is theyre doing the opposite of what they pretend to be. They pretend to be "agents of change" I see them saying it all over. Theyer doing the exact opposite in 0.0. theyre stagnating all that into one giant alliance sio if theyre getting bored,its their own fault lol

I expect more and more of this in the coming days as more and more 0.0 are allied under the same banner and more and more bored 0.0 PVP hungry pilots there are.

Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Minta Contha wrote:
I don't want hisec to become a zone of invulnerability.

QFT.


Andski wrote:
there is nothing more entertaining than a thread full of bad ideas


wait a Goon WANTS an invulnerable High Sec?

X Gallentius wrote:
The logical solution: Remove insurance from CONCORD deaths.
The Armageddon solution: Add ice to all CONCORD space belts. Yulai will have 30 ice mining belts.

Logical solution, remove CONCORD, let the faction police and the players police themselves

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#158 - 2011-10-28 23:26:14 UTC
Andski wrote:
let's see

CONCORD instaneuts, instajams and instagibs you as soon as they're on grid, why does it need a buff at all?


either the idea i gave above OR no six second wait. Instantly warp to offender

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#159 - 2011-10-28 23:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Andski wrote:
let's see

CONCORD instaneuts, instajams and instagibs you as soon as they're on grid, why does it need a buff at all?


either the idea i gave above OR no six second wait. Instantly warp to offender


Why in the world would CCP do that? CONCORD isn't meant to protect you, it's meant to provide consequences for suicide ganking.

If they implement that, then you should be able to tank and evade CONCORD.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#160 - 2011-10-28 23:54:04 UTC
Andski wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Andski wrote:
let's see

CONCORD instaneuts, instajams and instagibs you as soon as they're on grid, why does it need a buff at all?


either the idea i gave above OR no six second wait. Instantly warp to offender


Why in the world would CCP do that? CONCORD isn't meant to protect you, it's meant to provide consequences for suicide ganking.

If they implement that, then you should be able to tank and evade CONCORD.


OK, two seconds then. Then you can still alpha or youre ******

make it hard at least, ****

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.