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My short time in null

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#21 - 2013-03-07 18:18:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mon Diddies wrote:
Hello bros and pub bites, I'd just like to express the fun and great fights,Lolz and just all around great times I have had in null. I'm a newish player. I have joined IMHO the best corp and alliance in game. The guys I've met have taught me a lot and are really fun to fly with. The thing I really enjoy is the fact that win or lose we really just have fun. So don't worry to much about your kb stas and just have fun out there.

Anyways that's just me saying thanks to reds and blues alike for the fun so far. I hope it keeps up.

:shobon: Cute newbie.

Wait wait wait, you're in the TEST renter alliance. That means ....



Almost. The Renters are Honey Badger Coalition [NOFKS]

TEST Friends are on trial to be admitted into TEST Alliance.(Though really, we're so full it's not funny anymore.....)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-03-07 18:21:10 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
(Though really, we're so full it's not funny anymore.....)

Actually, kind of scary. And yet exciting at the same time.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#23 - 2013-03-07 18:27:04 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Mon Diddies wrote:
Hello bros and pub bites, I'd just like to express the fun and great fights,Lolz and just all around great times I have had in null. I'm a newish player. I have joined IMHO the best corp and alliance in game. The guys I've met have taught me a lot and are really fun to fly with. The thing I really enjoy is the fact that win or lose we really just have fun. So don't worry to much about your kb stas and just have fun out there.

Anyways that's just me saying thanks to reds and blues alike for the fun so far. I hope it keeps up.



Is it embarrassing to be this bad?

And Alts-r-us posts really aren't going to fool anyone. What?







Nobody cares about whether you're fooled or impressed.

What I want to know is why the hell there are always so many empty newlines at the end of your posts.



To leave room between my comments, and those of the various Mittani boot-lickers...I might catch something.....



Signature removed - CCP Eterne

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-03-07 18:37:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
So you're saying we should buff nullsec then?



CCP has tried buffing null many times. It always results in the same thing. Increased profit potential means increased rent, meaning massive ISK inflation in just a few hand fulls of wallets of the people that run the mega null coalitions, followed by CCP nerfing the buff to stop the massive ISK in flow.

The counter idea is, of course, to nerf high. The problem with that is that CCP is never going to nerf high to the point that carebears can't easily make enough ISK to fund their accounts on PLEX.

So, CCP is stuck between the rock (don't want trillions of ISK a month flowing into the few hands that control null) and a hard place (have to keep high sec profitable enough to fund PLEX).
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-03-07 19:00:32 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
So you're saying we should buff nullsec then?



CCP has tried buffing null many times.

ORLY?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#26 - 2013-03-07 19:44:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
LHA Tarawa wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
So you're saying we should buff nullsec then?



CCP has tried buffing null many times. It always results in the same thing. Increased profit potential means increased rent, meaning massive ISK inflation in just a few hand fulls of wallets of the people that run the mega null coalitions, followed by CCP nerfing the buff to stop the massive ISK in flow.

The counter idea is, of course, to nerf high. The problem with that is that CCP is never going to nerf high to the point that carebears can't easily make enough ISK to fund their accounts on PLEX.

So, CCP is stuck between the rock (don't want trillions of ISK a month flowing into the few hands that control null) and a hard place (have to keep high sec profitable enough to fund PLEX).


This is the problem people forming ideas without information.

Part of what you say is true (though you spent a lot of time denying it in the past), null "bufs" combined with the mechanics of the day (ie 400 mil an hour Titan/ tracking-link scimitar forsaken hub teams) did lead to bad things.

But you have ZERO evidence that it increased rents or concentrated wealth. Ratting isk doesn't DO that, it's individual income that corps can tax but corp taxes tend to be low. It was individual isk inflow and the resulting inflation as more and more INDIVIDUAL pilots got more isk that was the problem (as it was in a way with FW and incursions before the nerfs), not concentrating wealth in a few hands. Moon Goo does not, not ratting.

The other half of your belief is similarly based on nothing as well.

You have no proof of any kind that nerfing high sec income below a certain point will do anything to anyone BUT YOU. In the past many people said they'd quit if there was this nerf or that nerf, no many people did though, the only time it really happened was monocle gate and that wasn't because of any nerfs. And the above is an assertion i can PROVE...if I were Tippia that is.

You have to one day learn that other people aren't YOU and might not react to change the way YOU do, you're not the only person who plays EVE. many people would ride out an high sec nerf with nothing more than a little forum complaining.
STSxLight
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#27 - 2013-03-07 23:07:23 UTC
Nice to see you are having a good time newbroBig smile null is rewarding for anyone who keeps learning step by step, now where the hell did i left my hookbillShocked

"Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

my eve youtube channelĀ  http://www.youtube.com/user/stsxlight/videos

Mon Diddies
Indigo Generation
#28 - 2013-03-08 01:57:43 UTC
This is a great turn out of support thank you all for the encouragement and mostly positive response, I guess the forums aren't as bad as I was warned.

Dont believe anything you read, and only half of what you see. To be fair dont trust what you hear either.!!!!!!! TINFOIL ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!!

Frying Doom
#29 - 2013-03-08 02:04:26 UTC
Actually whether it is a Null TEST or Goonswarm Grunt or a Hi-sec newbie

It is nice to see new people enjoying the game.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

flakeys
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-03-08 14:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
So you're saying we should buff nullsec then?



CCP has tried buffing null many times.

ORLY?




Offcourse not , moonmining tech/anomolies/ plexes in npc null dropping 1.5 B loot .... yeah these things where allready in null when i started playing. Roll

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Camper101
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-03-08 14:41:24 UTC
I am rather amused how this thread is going places.

2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.

My name is Hans. The "L" stands for danger.

Smog890
New Eden Trade and Market
LinkNet
#32 - 2013-03-10 02:55:06 UTC
I approve of this post Lol
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2013-03-10 03:00:40 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mon Diddies wrote:
Hello bros and pub bites, I'd just like to express the fun and great fights,Lolz and just all around great times I have had in null. I'm a newish player. I have joined IMHO the best corp and alliance in game. The guys I've met have taught me a lot and are really fun to fly with. The thing I really enjoy is the fact that win or lose we really just have fun. So don't worry to much about your kb stas and just have fun out there.

Anyways that's just me saying thanks to reds and blues alike for the fun so far. I hope it keeps up.

:shobon: Cute newbie.

Wait wait wait, you're in the TEST renter alliance. That means ....

Almost. The Renters are Honey Badger Coalition [NOFKS]

TEST Friends are on trial to be admitted into TEST Alliance.(Though really, we're so full it's not funny anymore.....)

Ah, it's what they call the "feeder" alliance or something?

It's amusing that an acual alliance called HBC is in fact the one for renters.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Zhade Lezte
#34 - 2013-03-10 03:04:40 UTC
Gonna ignore the nullsec politics in this thread and just enjoy this for the feelgood eve-o thread of the month that it is :shobon:
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2013-03-10 04:23:45 UTC
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Gonna ignore the nullsec politics in this thread and just enjoy this for the feelgood eve-o thread of the month that it is :shobon:

Not to ruin anything, but this shobon newbie seems pretty well versed in the forums goings-on.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Annihilious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-03-10 14:40:40 UTC
I actually started EVE as a full blown expert. I kept hearing the same comments like "Geez dude, no one can teach you anything"...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2013-03-10 15:21:12 UTC
Annihilious wrote:
I actually started EVE as a full blown expert. I kept hearing the same comments like "Geez dude, no one can teach you anything"...

Wait until one day you jump your titan instead of bridging it.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

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