Crime & Punishment

The only experience i had with noir. Is when they brought a mixed fleet with carrier support into our (faction warfare) low sec space, and they got completely destroyed, I'm talking mud hole stomped. I'm talking if there was a reality called World's most one sided fights, this one would be ranked one. They lost 4 carriers and a myriad of support and combat ships. All I'm saying is i was not impressed with them greeting there **** pushed in by a ragtag loose group of fw low sec losers.

I'm just sayin.

The majority of Noir's contracts are 0.0, and we tend to fly light and fast during those jobs. Usually, we are hired for these sort of contracts with the specific intent of interdiction and in general, trying to cause as much damage as possible on the corp or corps that we were hired to harass. We are limited to a very select range of ships and fittings as outlined in our gang types. Alongside that, we tend to travel light in terms of supplies and ammo. More often than not, there is nowhere for us to dock and resupply due to being in hostile space.

Since we are not supposed to leave the contract area for the duration, we find ourselves logging out in space night after night. On top of this, our ammo supply tends to come from what we kill while on the job.

Capital ships, as you can imagine simply cannot operate all that well under the conditions mentioned above. So using them is a rarity for us on any standard contract. In the fight you are speaking of, we not only lost heavily, but we also shot ourselves in the foot before it even started due to crap fits on our carriers.

Worse yet, that engagement was actually our attempt at experimenting with new fleet types and training with triage carriers in order to determine if we would use them in the future. Obviously, that training didn't go all that well. ;) Alekseyev usually has no patience for outcomes such as the end of that fight, and is rather heavy handed with the BOOT when it happens during a contract.

Luckily for everybody involved, it was training, and not for contract.

Personally, I prefer sticking to cruiser logi and leaving the triage carriers at home. But that is just my opinion, and in no way the opinion of the corps members as a whole. And despite the fact that we SHOULDN'T forget about it as mentioned above, I still find myself wanting to forget the training fiasco that resulted in such heavy losses in the first place. It's easier for me to live in candy happy fluffy land and pretend it didn't happen while threatening to kidnap somebodies monkey.

That brawl was a bit back, and since then we have toyed around a bit more with the triage tactics. Still have LOTS of room for improvement though. We cannot however escape from the fact that we are a *VERY* small corp when compared to the other merc outfits in New Eden. This presents another problem in our ability to field capitals since we simply cannot field enough of them to counter the possibility of a much larger cap fleet dropping on our heads.

In our standard 0.0 fast gangs we could easily leave the field when and if a large cap fleet with support shows up. If we are in caps, then we would have no choice in the matter. All that we can do at that point is sit there, outnumbered, and getting picked apart. This is... Bad to say the least. The ISK loss is one factor, but more importantly we also lose the cargo of spiced wine, livestock and strippers that Noir. pilots keep in their cargo holds.

If anybody wants to get a better idea of our performance (to join us, or hire us), you can always take a look at our (API verified) KB and browse the past contracts. The ones below are just a few from that list.

Save Jita (We war dec'ed goonswarm for this one since it was in empire)
597 kills valued at 22.45 billion ISK - (And contrary to popular belief, only 7 of those API verified kills had Concord on them)
36 Losses valued at 2.20 billion ISK

Period Basis
588 kills valued at 41.02 billion ISK
30 losses valued at 3.38 billion ISK

CCRES Eviction
123 kills valued at 18.99 billion ISK
0 losses valued at 0

Impass
517 kills valued at 21.86 billion ISK
32 losses valued at 2.40 billion ISK

Pure Blind
432 kills valued at 22.89 billion ISK
51 losses valued at 2.90 billion ISK

And lets not forget the Alekseyev Karrde is ******* crazy contract. (Which really wasn't a contract and instead more of an Alek is ******* crazy celebratory mosh pit) In that we dec'ed the 25 largest alliances in EVE at once. Because.. Well.. Alek is ******* crazy! This included Goonswarm Federation, Test Alliance, Solar, White Noise, Brick, Raiden, Red Alliance, Pandemic Legion, Triple A, Fidelas, and the Northern Coalition to name a few.

I'm starting to think Alek might be like those crazy blue haired girls my mother always warned me about when growing up. The ones that can steal your souls when you are not looking. Well, minus the blue hair part... And the girl part. The crazy soul stealing part however still stands.

Many of our Russian friends simply referred to it as the day Noir. dec'ed EVE.

576 kills valued at 30.75 billion ISK
39 losses valued at 3.06 billion ISK

Oh crap that's right!

Forgot about that part. EN24 had an article about it. Think it was Minmatar and Amarr militia's but am not 100% sure. Either way, we exploded anyhow.

I'm not even in Noir. Alt posting aside I recall the story as it was during the last CSM elections. Kind of comical that I called you out and you now change your tune, and in doing so admit to blobbing with those that are normally enemies to ensure victory. You are awesome. Pro sauce leet pvp for sure.

You sound mad.

Pull your **** out of you're personality far enough for your balls to show, post on your main, and then maybe, just maybe I'll take your asinine ravings seriously enough to give a real response.

That article is wrong though... It says they took out all four of our carriers.

I am looking at our KB and they took out 5 of our carriers not 4. But for some reason I am not seeing the fifth on the battle report.

http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12560209

EDIT : Btw does anybody understand why this happens? If I click directly on that link above, I get the "you are leaving Eve forums" dialogue, then click ok, and I then it takes me to "Invalid Kill ID specific"

HOWEVER, if I right click that link and open in new window, then click ok on the dialogue, it goes to the correct page.

Same for any of you?

Thanks much.

BoB director c/d? ;p

Nin, has your 2012/2013 been so uneventful that your most invigorating memory was teaming up with an enemy militia to blob a roaming gang on a training op over a year ago? I think you need to spend less time circling beacons my friend! Perhaps if you pursued a more relevant EVE career path someone would care about you enough to hire us in your direction and we could give you a proper first impression ^^

And for the record, there's no such thing as too many carriers for a Hans Jagerblitzen kill mail

RE BL: On the PVP side of things, everything was clicking and we were doing well. But there was a lot of friction with NA. coming from a few BL members. I'd sum it up as cultural differences, which one BL corp elected to express by shooting their own alliance during fleets. It's no worries though, much love for Elo and the rest of BL (especially MVN and VAF); it just wasn't for us.

Translation: Noir got booted out of BL because of alek's huge ego couldn't actually deliver anything beside an imagined sense of importance.

Double post