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Elli M0o
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-03-09 17:59:04 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Min large POS is a good choice as it has tons of shield HP as well as good CPU/PG we've always used them.

In the past when living in C3/4 for medium guns we've gone with roughly 2/3rds autocannons, 1/3rd arty. Don't forget that medium POS guns use large rather than medium ammo (small guns use medium ammo, large guns use x-l).


thank you. but are arty's any good? for ex, should the target be webbed/scrammed for them to hit like in normal ship fights?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#22 - 2013-03-09 18:12:07 UTC
Depends on target and range, they won't be that great for hitting for instance guardians without webs but they aren't bad for hitting battleships and battlecruisers.

TBH its a bit academic the goal is to make your tower not look like easy pickings - a lightly defended POS will attract attention, one with online guns, scrams, etc. will make most people move on for easier targets. If someones really determined to bash your POS it will take more than POS guns alone to stop them.
Elli M0o
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-03-09 18:17:31 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Depends on target and range, they won't be that great for hitting for instance guardians without webs but they aren't bad for hitting battleships and battlecruisers.

TBH its a bit academic the goal is to make your tower not look like easy pickings - a lightly defended POS will attract attention, one with online guns, scrams, etc. will make most people move on for easier targets. If someones really determined to bash your POS it will take more than POS guns alone to stop them.


i understand that view point. Its more to stop them from considering to attack me rather than stopping the attack itself. Yeah they are quite cheap so i'l throw in 2 dozens and leave them off lined.
Marsan
#24 - 2013-03-09 19:28:51 UTC
I always recommend a few large guns. Not for the battleships but for insta-poping the idiots in frigate/SB/COps who think it's safe to sit 150K off a POS uncloaked. Seriously you want large guns for Battle Ships as well. You can fit a BS to siege from outside med-gun range. A handful of large gun makes the siege a bit more complex, and some folks will just pass on POS they can't semi-afk bash.

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Elli M0o
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-03-09 19:49:00 UTC
Marsan wrote:
I always recommend a few large guns. Not for the battleships but for insta-poping the idiots in frigate/SB/COps who think it's safe to sit 150K off a POS uncloaked. Seriously you want large guns for Battle Ships as well. You can fit a BS to siege from outside med-gun range. A handful of large gun makes the siege a bit more complex, and some folks will just pass on POS they can't semi-afk bash.


Will do. A couple large AC will be enough? I'l have some more off lined.
Elli M0o
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-03-09 19:55:44 UTC
1. On an unrelated note, do you guys think 2 chars can run a C3 site? give me some ship combo's that are good if you can pls. my skills are well balanced so any combo is fine as long as its cheap enough to replace. (tengus are ok, but i cant fly faction bs until i know about the sites better)

2. About the pvp side, is solo (with 1 char, since i am not experienced in dual boxing pvp, but can do an OGB though) roam in wormholes effective? or people usually roam in fleets of t3 ships?

I dont mind losing ships but i prefer to lose it in a good fight and not to a gank. So any tips are wellcome.

3. Oh and the statics i get will be occupied most of times, how do you guys go about running the sites there? Roll the static if its crowded?

4. Also can i pls get a link to read about rolling the static C3 if anyone has anything?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#27 - 2013-03-09 20:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
We used to run C3 sites with drakes - the old fit still works well enough post BC/HML changes, or if you want to speed it up a bit tengus.

Quote:

[Drake, C3 Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5


If you have a character with ganglink skills trained you can stick the siege resist link one one of the drakes to make up some of the tank and reduce the tanking modules for more DPS/tackle/target painters. Probably worth sticking a probe launcher in the empty high on one of them if your running sites in your static.
Elli M0o
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-03-09 21:14:44 UTC
Rroff wrote:
We used to run C3 sites with drakes - the old fit still works well enough post BC/HML changes, or if you want to speed it up a bit tengus.

Quote:

[Drake, C3 Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5


If you have a character with ganglink skills trained you can stick the siege resist link one one of the drakes to make up some of the tank and reduce the tanking modules for more DPS/tackle/target painters. Probably worth sticking a probe launcher in the empty high on one of them if your running sites in your static.


Thank you. Assuming i use the above setup in dual drakes, can u tell me what will be an approx completion time for C3 sites? Also you have a dedicated salvager i suppose?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#29 - 2013-03-09 21:23:08 UTC
Last time I ran C3 sites was before noctis was introduced (we used alts in catalysts for salvaging 1 site behind) so I can't really remember site completion times.
Onyx Asablot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-03-10 00:54:35 UTC
I was told to always go with a large POS regardless of what you are doing. Especially in a C2-C3, if you POS is set up correctly then there usually won't be enough fire power that can get into that WH unless you really pissed someone off and they have it out for you LOL.


Talocan United has a ton of great info for WH's.

Check it out when you have a chance.


http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/setting-up-your-pos-designing/



Fly Safe and I hope you find what you are looking for!


Onyx

America!
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