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ORE ship reimbursement and upcoming expansion

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#181 - 2013-03-09 19:41:10 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Yes but my solution takes a lot of dev time reprogramming the skill system (or perhaps the addition of a superfluous skill) for no real reason to appease a few falsely-entitled individuals

Straight

Will it also break the game in (as yet) unknown and mysterious ways ?!

Surprises keep the metagame fresh and interesting!

Not if the GEWNS are there and making use of it. Then someone might have to cry for them to be nerfed.
Dave Stark wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

You're posting in General Discussion.

You also hate yourself?

Guess so.

Hmm, so you're implying you're also bored.

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Dave Stark
#182 - 2013-03-09 19:49:14 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

You're posting in General Discussion.

You also hate yourself?

Guess so.

Hmm, so you're implying you're also bored.

I'm a miner...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#183 - 2013-03-09 19:53:06 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

You're posting in General Discussion.

You also hate yourself?

Guess so.

Hmm, so you're implying you're also bored.

I'm a miner...

It's ok.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#184 - 2013-03-09 19:57:18 UTC
Is this thread still on topic ?
Dave Stark
#185 - 2013-03-09 19:58:43 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Is this thread still on topic ?

doubt it.

Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

I'm a miner...

It's ok.

a-are you sure?
Whitehound
#186 - 2013-03-09 20:00:58 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Is this thread still on topic ?

You never seem to need reasons for making your comments, so why ask now?

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#187 - 2013-03-09 20:02:52 UTC
There is simply no further need for discussion. I'm not saying my idea is perfect. I'm saying that it cannot be improved upon.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#188 - 2013-03-09 20:04:15 UTC
Correction: You may discuss how great my idea is.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#189 - 2013-03-09 20:06:49 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
There is simply no further need for discussion. I'm not saying my idea is perfect. I'm saying that it cannot be improved upon.


I know how it could be improved upon. Give the whiners their SP reimbursement in the form of free gametime rather than straight SP, and require them to have the current Orca requirements in order to fly the Orca.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mag's
Azn Empire
#190 - 2013-03-09 20:09:03 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Correction: You may discuss how great my idea is.
I think your idea is awesome and should be implemented ASAP. Cool















(Just send the ISK to the alt as we discussed.)

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2013-03-09 20:10:11 UTC
That's the same as my idea but with free gametime tacked on! This is an outrageous appropriation of BennyPlan's core aspects.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#192 - 2013-03-09 20:12:46 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Is this thread still on topic ?

You never seem to need reasons for making your comments, so why ask now?
Obviously you didn't quite get it. ^_^
Also, you should learn the definition of "never", because the first half of your sentence isn't actually true. :)

Anyhow, thanks for helping. This thread has lived long enough. :)
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#193 - 2013-03-09 20:21:47 UTC
10 pages of whine?

All the current skills equired to fly an Orca are relevant and do provide benefis. Just because some players do not use all of those benefits is not a case for reimbursement. Industry 5 reduces manufacuring time, Science 4 allows for Nanite Control to be trained (which is handy if you use combat boosters), Mining Barges 5 is highly useful if you plan to mine and allows for Exhumers to be trained. If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#194 - 2013-03-09 20:27:42 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
That's the same as my idea but with free gametime tacked on! This is an outrageous appropriation of BennyPlan's core aspects.


Except that my idea also gives them what they want. All skills required to fly an Orca being reimbursed to them.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Whitehound
#195 - 2013-03-09 20:30:45 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
10 pages of whine?

All the current skills equired to fly an Orca are relevant and do provide benefis. Just because some players do not use all of those benefits is not a case for reimbursement. Industry 5 reduces manufacuring time, Science 4 allows for Nanite Control to be trained (which is handy if you use combat boosters), Mining Barges 5 is highly useful if you plan to mine and allows for Exhumers to be trained. If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.

So you are saying CCP should not change the skills.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Asmodai Xodai
#196 - 2013-03-09 20:50:05 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.


Someone might have wanted to... you know... actually use it the way it was designed, i.e. support mining operations with it (which doesn't mean that they themselves mine or need to train barges, which is actually reflected with CCP's upcoming changes).
Dave Stark
#197 - 2013-03-09 20:51:35 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.


Someone might have wanted to... you know... actually use it the way it was designed, i.e. support mining operations with it (which doesn't mean that they themselves mine or need to train barges, which is actually reflected with CCP's upcoming changes).


except if they were mining, during the time they were training for the orca, they were in a mining ship, contributing to the mining fleet.

so even in that situation, it isn't a redundant and/or useless skill. especially when you get multiple orca pilots turning up to an op, the rest can jump in to mining ships.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#198 - 2013-03-09 20:51:56 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
10 pages of whine?

All the current skills equired to fly an Orca are relevant and do provide benefis. Just because some players do not use all of those benefits is not a case for reimbursement. Industry 5 reduces manufacuring time, Science 4 allows for Nanite Control to be trained (which is handy if you use combat boosters), Mining Barges 5 is highly useful if you plan to mine and allows for Exhumers to be trained. If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.

So you are saying CCP should not change the skills.


Nope, but it doesn't change the fact that the skills needed to get into an Orca now, are not useful. I like the idea that if I want to fly a mining barge, then I can.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#199 - 2013-03-09 20:58:45 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.


Someone might have wanted to... you know... actually use it the way it was designed, i.e. support mining operations with it (which doesn't mean that they themselves mine or need to train barges, which is actually reflected with CCP's upcoming changes).


Oh, so you're one of those guys who just wants to park his Orca, turn on the boosts, then go afk, and get your cut from the mining op. Basically earning isk with minimal effort.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#200 - 2013-03-09 21:06:15 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
If all you wanted the Orca for was to haul stuff around, then you should have trained for a freighter.

Someone might have wanted to... you know... actually use it the way it was designed, i.e. support mining operations with it (which doesn't mean that they themselves mine or need to train barges, which is actually reflected with CCP's upcoming changes).

Oh, so you're one of those guys who just wants to park his Orca, turn on the boosts, then go afk, and get your cut from the mining op. Basically earning isk with minimal effort.

More stylish than afk mining for your isk with minimal effort.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?