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Pyre Audeles
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-03-09 02:07:00 UTC
Hello folks,

You all probably see this thread a billion times, but I figure I'd give it try. I'm new (obviously), and want to know the best path to take in order to reach my goal of being a pirate. Yarr.

Anyway, I'm not looking to join a corp just yet, and if I do in the future, I'd like it to be a very, very casual pirate corp. In the meantime, I'd like to try my hand at solo pirating, or pirating with my buddy, who is getting EVE this week. Obviously I don't have the skills and isk to venture into lowsec, let alone nulsec, anytime soon, but what's the best way to get it?

Currently I'm just doing some mining, ratting, and mission running to fund all the skillbooks I'm buying, and ships I'm fitting. Is this the right approach? And based on my existing skills, what in particular should I be focusing on? Finally, I've got a few ships, including a Venture for mining, a Rifter for future pirating, a Tristan, and an Atron (both initially bought for PVP, but now just sitting in dry dock as the Rifter is apparently the go-to frigateUgh). I'm wondering, should I stick with the Rifter for pirating, or get a destroyer now that I have the isk-flow and skills?

Thanks all!
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2013-03-09 02:37:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.

ANY ship can be good (especially with the recent tiericide of frigs), so a lot of the older guides (anything pre-inferno for the most part) may be somewhat out of date. One of the big reasons people like the Rifter is that it can be a little farther out than the Tristan/Atron, and may have slightly higher GTFO ability when things go wrong.

Easiest primer for skills will be to get the ones that fulfill the requirements for the recommended certificates for the ship(s) you intend to fly.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2013-03-09 02:51:30 UTC
Kill some people.
Pyre Audeles
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-03-09 03:14:27 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.

ANY ship can be good (especially with the recent tiericide of frigs), so a lot of the older guides (anything pre-inferno for the most part) may be somewhat out of date. One of the big reasons people like the Rifter is that it can be a little farther out than the Tristan/Atron, and may have slightly higher GTFO ability when things go wrong.

Easiest primer for skills will be to get the ones that fulfill the requirements for the recommended certificates for the ship(s) you intend to fly.


Thanks!

I did the initial tutorial missions, with that blue woman, and I've done the basic military arc. Where do I find those others you mention?

And in regards to the above posting, I do know that getting out there and subjecting myself to a trail by fire is the best method to train myself in PVP. I'd just rather make sure I had a good amount of ISK, and plenty of skills trained, before I start doing anything that might affect my security status.

One more question for you all; when/if I get podded, I lose my implants plus some skill points, unless I've got an upgraded clone, correct?
Blackhuey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-03-09 04:53:07 UTC
Pyre Audeles wrote:
I'd just rather make sure I had a good amount of ISK, and plenty of skills trained, before I start doing anything that might affect my security status.


If you have the financial ability to, I highly recommend buying a GTC, converting to a PLEX and selling the PLEX. That's enough ISK for you to enjoy the game the way you want to, rather than grinding stuff you hate to make money. By the time you've burned through the couple of hundred ships a PLEX will buy you, you'll be a pretty damn good pirate.

On sec status, if you're going to be a pirate, don't worry about it. Go lose it as fast as you can!

Pyre Audeles wrote:
One more question for you all; when/if I get podded, I lose my implants plus some skill points, unless I've got an upgraded clone, correct?


When podded you always lose your implants. If your clone doesn't cover your current skillpoint total, you lose some skillpoints. Always have your clone up to date. Always. It should be the very first thing you do after you get podded.

@blackhuey | soundcloud.com/blackhuey
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#6 - 2013-03-09 08:31:53 UTC
If you are planning to use exspensive implants and do a fair amount of PVP you will want to get a couple of jump clones set up. This way you can safetly PVP in a clone with few/no implants or hardwires.
I know there is a few corps out there that you can join to get jump clones, but i dont know the name off them Sad

Other ways are joining a corp that has standings for jump clones, or grind enough standings on your own with a corp that has stations with medical. And ofc outposts in 0.0 if you end up joining a 0.0 corp Smile

More information about jump clones can be found here; http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Jump_Clones

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Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-09 09:58:32 UTC
Pyre Audeles wrote:
Hello folks,

You all probably see this thread a billion times, but I figure I'd give it try. I'm new (obviously), and want to know the best path to take in order to reach my goal of being a pirate. Yarr.

Anyway, I'm not looking to join a corp just yet, and if I do in the future, I'd like it to be a very, very casual pirate corp. In the meantime, I'd like to try my hand at solo pirating, or pirating with my buddy, who is getting EVE this week. Obviously I don't have the skills and isk to venture into lowsec, let alone nulsec, anytime soon, but what's the best way to get it?

Currently I'm just doing some mining, ratting, and mission running to fund all the skillbooks I'm buying, and ships I'm fitting. Is this the right approach? And based on my existing skills, what in particular should I be focusing on? Finally, I've got a few ships, including a Venture for mining, a Rifter for future pirating, a Tristan, and an Atron (both initially bought for PVP, but now just sitting in dry dock as the Rifter is apparently the go-to frigateUgh). I'm wondering, should I stick with the Rifter for pirating, or get a destroyer now that I have the isk-flow and skills?

Thanks all!

Since pretty much everyone will have much more SP and better ships than you as a newbie, you really should think about joining a good corp so you can fleet up. Plus that way you'll have people to teach you.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-03-09 10:11:24 UTC
Pyre Audeles wrote:
I did the initial tutorial missions, with that blue woman, and I've done the basic military arc. Where do I find those others you mention?


Same system as the basic military career agent. There'll be the exploration, industry, business and advanced military. Do all of them, you get ships, skill books and an introduction to those areas in the game.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-03-09 10:47:23 UTC
About two thirds of the way down this long page of podcasts:

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_University_Class_Library

There is an excellent 'Piracy Q&A' with a bunch of pirate CEO's.

Should give you a few pointers.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Ramsar Endedare
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-09 16:46:12 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.


What's HTFU?
Pyre Audeles
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-03-09 16:53:16 UTC
Ramsar Endedare wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.


What's HTFU?


Was wondering the same thing. Hat the #$%@ up, maybe? "The @#$% up" seems clear, but what's the H? Or am I totally missing it?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2013-03-09 17:07:48 UTC
Ramsar Endedare wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.


What's HTFU?


Harden the **** up <-- This is why we love CCP Smile

Pretty much don't be afraid of bad things (tm) happening.

I completely agree with everyone else saying a corp can help you learn things -- and especially help you deal with losing ships. While you may see the 1.5 mil you're dopping on a frigate as "a lot" ... a corp can be like "yeah, here's 10... let's go kill these bastards".

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-03-09 17:13:16 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Ramsar Endedare wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
do all the tutorial missions for a bit of ISK (AURA, Starter Agents, SoE Epic Arc), and then HTFU and go to lowsec.


What's HTFU?


Harden the **** up <-- This is why we love CCP Smile

Pretty much don't be afraid of bad things (tm) happening.

I completely agree with everyone else saying a corp can help you learn things -- and especially help you deal with losing ships. While you may see the 1.5 mil you're dopping on a frigate as "a lot" ... a corp can be like "yeah, here's 10... let's go kill these bastards".


Saved that YT video to my favorites.

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Miss Spent Youth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-09 18:01:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Spent Youth
Oh dear!
CCP actually made that song?
...and put it on the Internet?
That is embarrassing.

Overweight ugly geeks pretending to be "hipsters" Oops

It was a bit like watching your Dad dancing at a weddingStraight
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#15 - 2013-03-09 18:41:38 UTC
Miss Spent Youth wrote:
Oh dear!
CCP actually made that song?
...and put it on the Internet?
That is embarrassing.

Overweight ugly geeks pretending to be "hipsters" Oops

It was a bit like watching your Dad dancing at a weddingStraight


If you don't recognize something hilarious when you see it then i am sorry for you.Sad

Also, the alternate HTFU video Enjoy!

By the way, OP, feel free to hang out in my corp's public channel "Revolution!" Even if you don't want to join us, we are a newb friendly gang of pirates and scoundrels, and happy to answer any questions you have while you are out there looking for trouble on your own.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Pierre Dumonte
Mortis Noir.
#16 - 2013-03-10 14:40:08 UTC
Run missions and train train train skills at the start. Find a group of guys to fly with. A corp or a loose affiliation of like minded players. Use the public channels, join corporation chat channels in your area. The biggest thing about eve is that it is ever evolving. The game is more of an alternate reality in fictional space than a game really. The actions of those around you as well as your actions can and will have an impact on your game play.

I have recently come back to the game after about 8 months and wow, things have changed. However certain rules apply now just like they always did.

When you are going to get into pew pew matches with other players keep these points in mind

  • never fly any ship you cannot afford to lose. The ship you are in is already blown up, its just a matter of time
  • don't take it personally, its a game, the pixels are just pixels Pirate
  • be courteous in local when you blow up, or when you blow someone else up, a GF in local or something like that is always well received
  • make friends, everybody is playing to have fun, so lets have fun.

    • Now I must post this and go in search of whatever the heck it means to be a suspect or criminal.... I have missed 2 patches and someone has modified my ships in my absence. Twisted

    Mortis Noir. is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=223392&find=unread" "any ship in space will eventually explode" ~ Minmatar Proverb