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CCP: We NEED a more interactive mining experience!
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#1 - 2013-03-06 23:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
The easiest way to do this right here, right now without affecting would be simply to replace all extraction bonuses with cycle time bonuses.

For instance players would be much more engaged if they could operate on a 45 or 60 second cycle time. This would allow for less missed cycles on near-empty roids and thus reward active players.

Lets take a ship off the lot: Retriever

4,202.51 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
180 second cycle.


Turn this into:


826.5 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
30 second cycle


Overall this won't affect the hourly progress but will let miners avoid wasting painfully long cycles on tiny asteroids. This will contribute to an overall much more satisfying mining community, and give players a sense of immediacy.

Now with 100% less Troll.
Dave Stark
#2 - 2013-03-06 23:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
no, you want a more interactive mining experience.
we, do not.

also, this isn't more interactive, this is....

oh **** it, posting in a stealth "buff mining" thread.

edit: it's actually not even a stealth thread, it's just obvious he wants mining to be even easier.
Haulie Berry
#3 - 2013-03-07 00:17:53 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
no, you want a more interactive mining experience.
we, do not.

also, this isn't more interactive, this is....

oh **** it, posting in a stealth "buff mining" thread.

edit: it's actually not even a stealth thread, it's just obvious he wants mining to be even easier.


Hey everyone, look who has never read a Tom Gerard post before.
Dave Stark
#4 - 2013-03-07 09:39:31 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
no, you want a more interactive mining experience.
we, do not.

also, this isn't more interactive, this is....

oh **** it, posting in a stealth "buff mining" thread.

edit: it's actually not even a stealth thread, it's just obvious he wants mining to be even easier.


Hey everyone, look who has never read a Tom Gerard post before.


oh right, i didn't even read the poster's name. serves me right i guess.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#5 - 2013-03-07 10:24:29 UTC
Well...

In the case of higher end ore's any non-full units get wasted I think, so this would lower the yield of high end ores which tend to be rather bulky per unit.

I'm not opposed to mining system overhaul, but I think that instead of just tweaking the "firing rate" of the laser the system should get a more complete overhaul, once CCP gets around to it. Right after it has fixed the POS system that is ;)

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Caerfinon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-07 11:30:50 UTC
How about making mining more like the Asteroids video game?

You have to shoot the asteroid to break it down and retrieve the ore, but you also need to avoid the chunks or take damage to your mining ship.... now that's interactive! Lol

Cheers C.

@Caerfinon - Twitter
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#7 - 2013-03-07 11:50:08 UTC
Caerfinon wrote:
How about making mining more like the Asteroids video game?

You have to shoot the asteroid to break it down and retrieve the ore, but you also need to avoid the chunks or take damage to your mining ship.... now that's interactive! Lol


It's also twitchy, and EVE is not a twitch game.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#8 - 2013-03-07 12:59:58 UTC
Caerfinon wrote:
How about making mining more like the Asteroids video game?

You have to shoot the asteroid to break it down and retrieve the ore, but you also need to avoid the chunks or take damage to your mining ship.... now that's interactive! Lol



Well that would put quite a dampener on my ability so semiafk mine with 5 to 6 accounts. So obviously I do not like it and neither would CCP most likely as that would cost em good chunk of subs when all the miners running 10+ accounts start cutting down to the level they can still manage.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Haulie Berry
#9 - 2013-03-07 15:47:49 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:


oh right, i didn't even read the poster's name. serves me right i guess.



Tom Gerard posts are hard to miss. His avatar has the most punchable face on the forum. Smile
TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-07 16:10:49 UTC
Posting in a 'buff afk mining' thread

OP, try fitting a survey scanner if you don't like wasted cycles. You clearly just want to afk it and use the audio queue to know when to restart cycles, shorter cycles allow that with less waste.

...

Dave Stark
#11 - 2013-03-07 17:20:43 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


oh right, i didn't even read the poster's name. serves me right i guess.



Tom Gerard posts are hard to miss. His avatar has the most punchable face on the forum. Smile


there could be a cow in the middle of the road and i wouldn't notice. let alone notice an ugly face on the left hand side of my screen.
stoicfaux
#12 - 2013-03-07 17:43:29 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:

Lets take a ship off the lot: Retriever

4,202.51 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
180 second cycle.


Turn this into:


826.5 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
30 second cycle


Overall this won't affect the hourly progress but will let miners avoid wasting painfully long cycles on tiny asteroids. This will contribute to an overall much more satisfying mining community, and give players a sense of immediacy.

Posting in an AFK mining NERF thread. Reducing the duration to one sixth without a corresponding cap reduction is pretty sneaky Herr Gerad! If a laser turns off because it's out of cap, it won't turn back on by itself. Never mind not reducing crystal damage or costs to one sixth as well.

And dear lord, can you imagine trying to fit a cap booster on a Retriever?!?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2013-03-07 18:38:12 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
The easiest way to do this right here, right now without affecting would be simply to replace all extraction bonuses with cycle time bonuses.

For instance players would be much more engaged if they could operate on a 45 or 60 second cycle time. This would allow for less missed cycles on near-empty roids and thus reward active players.

Lets take a ship off the lot: Retriever

4,202.51 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
180 second cycle.


Turn this into:


826.5 m3 per cycle
27.55 m3 per second.
30 second cycle


Overall this won't affect the hourly progress but will let miners avoid wasting painfully long cycles on tiny asteroids. This will contribute to an overall much more satisfying mining community, and give players a sense of immediacy.


Yeah right.

It's already 'interactive' enough.

You just don't ever stop with the Trolling do you ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Johnson 1044
Johnson Organic Produce
#14 - 2013-03-08 02:36:40 UTC
How about integrating a WII controller and you have to swing it at the roids like a pick?
Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-03-08 02:48:08 UTC
Mining is working as intended. Ok people, move it along, just another pubbie moron.

Just another ADHD PVP player wanting something they will do for 5 minute and get bored.

Leave the things that take focus, requires math, patience and fortitude to the grown ups

Now move along...
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#16 - 2013-03-09 00:02:43 UTC
For a more interactive mining experience, try mining in New Order territory without a permit.

Activate modules. Mash D-scan. Warp the hell away at first sign of Catalysts or other destroyers on scan.

Much more interactive, and your errors will provide someone entertainment.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#17 - 2013-03-09 02:26:56 UTC
Reducing cycle time doesn't make mining more "interactive". You just get the pretty voice more often saying the roid is *poof*. Also, mining crystals will take damage faster :p

If you really crave more interaction out of a concern for missed cycles: fit a survey scanner and use it. You can then "interact" more by figuring out when to stop a cycle.

Also, if you want the most interaction to keep mining from being boring - mine in low sec. You can learn to use your directional scanner as well then.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#18 - 2013-03-09 02:28:29 UTC
Johnson 1044 wrote:
How about integrating a WII controller and you have to swing it at the roids like a pick?


or this! Lol

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.
Tion Barton
Bare Minimum Bandits
I Showed You My Probes... Please Respond...
#19 - 2013-03-09 04:17:44 UTC
posting to confirm OP should have been aborted.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#20 - 2013-03-09 10:56:45 UTC
Tion Barton wrote:
posting to confirm OP should have been aborted.


Resurgent Threat built Catalysts are certified for use in 94th trimester abortions.

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