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High-Sec Ganking issue.

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Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-09 03:21:53 UTC
Hello All! I recently did some research on a corp mates High-Sec Hulk loss. After doing some digging I found that the corp that was responsible for the kill (xX-Crusader-Xx) which is part of the Hegemonous Pandorum Alliance. This Corp is using -10 security toons to come into High sec and gank your Barges and Indys. Hegemonous Pandorums CEO has this posted on His BIO which is public Information ............

Stationmonkey

www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/~175618

Because everyone wants plex!!

Want to talk to us? You can do that here.

hp.myevehost.com/index.php

So the CEO of a High-Sec Ganking Alliance Promotes and advertises for www.Shatteredcrystal.com.
CCP indorses this site, but at the same time they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living. From what I have read the outlined goal is to stop subscription paying players from being able to make money Via mining in High-Sec and force them to purchase ETC from Shatteredcrystal.com and convert it into PLEX which they intern sell to the market. CCP needs to make High-Sec "secure"

>xX-Crusader-Xx >Hegemonous Pandorum> Executor > Hegemoney> CEO and Founder >Citizen Vigilante CEO
Cognito Ergosum
Vulkan Schiffbau und Maschinenfabrik AG
#2 - 2013-03-09 03:30:01 UTC
For the love of the FSM.

I'm as big of a care bear as there is out there and I'm just embarrassed for you. Shattered Crystal is a GTC reseller; you may not like buying GTCs, many don't, but they are doing a legit business with CCP's blessing.

EVE is a PVP game, you don't "have" to mine or mission or haul to make ISK, you choose your way.

Every way has risk.

It's not a conspiracy.

Really.




I'm a miner and at this point *I'm* voting for a less secure hi-sec just to cull the herd.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-09 03:31:44 UTC
Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-09 03:36:29 UTC
Ok Cognito I ask you this, how will you make money mining if High-Sec is less secure?
Cognito Ergosum
Vulkan Schiffbau und Maschinenfabrik AG
#5 - 2013-03-09 03:42:05 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
Ok Cognito I ask you this, how will you make money mining if High-Sec is less secure?


Same way I mine in low sec; tank your ship, learn to use d-scan, use local, make friends with the locals.

Never AFK mine and expect to come back to a intact shipBig smile
Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-03-09 03:43:21 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
Ok Cognito I ask you this, how will you make money mining if High-Sec is less secure?



http://existenz.se/out.php?id=61764
LoanWolf Tivianne
Ace's And 8's
#7 - 2013-03-09 03:47:10 UTC
while i understand your frustration i disagree with your logic what i like most about eve is its so free any ass hole can do bad things any time he likes to good people

ok do i agree that just because they can the should..... no but you know what if ever miner in the game said ok we refuse to mine and sell for a week you could make a hell of a statment instead of crying in forums unit the miners in game and demand respect after all how will they kill you with out ships to do it in ? you forget you run eve not them

yea my spelling sucks so do you go back to work school teacher your not wanted here

Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-03-09 03:52:24 UTC
Cognito Ergosum wrote:
Kira Abarai wrote:
Ok Cognito I ask you this, how will you make money mining if High-Sec is less secure?


Same way I mine in low sec; tank your ship, learn to use d-scan, use local, make friends with the locals.

Never AFK mine and expect to come back to a intact shipBig smile


Thats LOW sec I shouldnt have to. Cut and dry. If i wanted to play like that I would go to LOW sec.

You are not understanding my point. '

Next....
Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-09 03:55:10 UTC
LoanWolf Tivianne wrote:
while i understand your frustration i disagree with your logic what i like most about eve is its so free any ass hole can do bad things any time he likes to good people

ok do i agree that just because they can the should..... no but you know what if ever miner in the game said ok we refuse to mine and sell for a week you could make a hell of a statment instead of crying in forums unit the miners in game and demand respect after all how will they kill you with out ships to do it in ? you forget you run eve not them



Ok i will waste one forth of my months subscription good idea.
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-03-09 04:00:15 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:


Thats LOW sec I shouldnt have to. Cut and dry. If i wanted to play like that I would go to LOW sec.

You are not understanding my point. '

Next....

I think the issue is you're not understanding EvE is a PvP based game. Everytime you undock anywhere in EvE you're consenting to pvp. Even if you never undock, everytime you use the market to sell something you take away a sale from someone else = market pvp.
The tools are there for you not to keep exploding in a mining barge in high sec - if you don't choose to use them then you only have yourself to blame.

Also posting threads about EvE not being safe so you can mine in peace is usually a sure way to end up with your corp being war decced / griefed by lots of people who do nothing but that.
Cognito Ergosum
Vulkan Schiffbau und Maschinenfabrik AG
#11 - 2013-03-09 04:01:11 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
Cognito Ergosum wrote:
Kira Abarai wrote:
Ok Cognito I ask you this, how will you make money mining if High-Sec is less secure?


Same way I mine in low sec; tank your ship, learn to use d-scan, use local, make friends with the locals.

Never AFK mine and expect to come back to a intact shipBig smile


Thats LOW sec I shouldnt have to. Cut and dry. If i wanted to play like that I would go to LOW sec.

You are not understanding my point. '

Next....


You're taking labels and giving meaning where none was implied. Hi-sec is 'safer' not absolute saftey. Low-sec is less safe but frankly, quieter systems are less 'dangerous' than Caldari ice fields. . .

I understand your point. You want an absolute; an absolute safe region of the game. That's not EVE.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-03-09 04:12:52 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:
Thats LOW sec I shouldnt have to [fit a tank]. Cut and dry. If i wanted to play like that I would go to LOW sec.

You are not understanding my point. '

Next....

Of course you want to play like that. You joined a game where everyone has to play like that to survive.
Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2013-03-09 04:16:42 UTC
Kira Abarai wrote:

So the CEO of a High-Sec Ganking Alliance Promotes and advertises for www.Shatteredcrystal.com.
CCP indorses this site, but at the same time they are abusing the system to killing off indys and other ships in EVE for people to make a NON-PVP living. From what I have read the outlined goal is to stop subscription paying players from being able to make money Via mining in High-Sec and force them to purchase ETC from Shatteredcrystal.com and convert it into PLEX which they intern sell to the market. CCP needs to make High-Sec "secure"

Why does CCP need to make Hi Sec Secure and not you?

Fact is economic wars happen and these Gankers strategy isn't all that secure, it can be countered. People could refuse their services. People could fly ships that are not economical to gank like Skiffs. People can tank their ships. People can fly only what they can comfortably afford to lose.

I have hauled, mined, missioned, ect and I take steps to insure I do not get ganked. I take more steps to insure I always have enough assets to be comfortable. Why should CCP punish them for your poor choices.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, people say EVE is a breeding ground for griefers, pirates, profiteers, thieves and such, they all can't do sh*t to you if you stay one step ahead of them. So why don't you?
Haulie Berry
#14 - 2013-03-09 04:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Hm. This reads like a troll, but killboards match up with this story. A very dedicated troll?
Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-03-09 04:25:30 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Hm. This reads like a troll, but killboards match up with this story. A very dedicated troll?


Very.... I was hoping they would see the real message.
GreenSeed
#16 - 2013-03-09 04:29:24 UTC
highsec -10 pirates abusing game mechanics by enjoying -10 lifestyle while avoiding all penalties by using alts to move stuff around, and even financing their wanna be pirate activities are a real problem, and ccp needs to further penalize -10 gameplay in highsec.

hopefully ccp will "fix" --5.0 sec gameplay by forcing them to fly either a shuttle or a pod only. and forcing them to "play eve" and go farm sec rating back killing NPCs in null.


all that said, you are an idiot for expecting highsec to be safe. its not, and people will take your stuff, get over it.
Rahdzilla
Nostromo Ishimura Coalation
#17 - 2013-03-09 04:34:08 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
highsec -10 pirates abusing game mechanics by enjoying -10 lifestyle while avoiding all penalties by using alts to move stuff around, and even financing their wanna be pirate activities are a real problem, and ccp needs to further penalize -10 gameplay in highsec.

hopefully ccp will "fix" --5.0 sec gameplay by forcing them to fly either a shuttle or a pod only. and forcing them to "play eve" and go farm sec rating back killing NPCs in null.


all that said, you are an idiot for expecting highsec to be safe. its not, and people will take your stuff, get over it.


So, what does highsec mean then? Thought highsec meant highsec. Hes trying to say they shouldnt be able to kill you and not get podded, which is what happened. These guys hang in Goram moon 4.
Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-03-09 04:34:23 UTC
OP is wrong! Why, according to New Order it's now impossible to gank miners without atleast 10 BC's alpha striking Pirate

I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service.

Kira Abarai
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-03-09 04:36:59 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
highsec -10 pirates abusing game mechanics by enjoying -10 lifestyle while avoiding all penalties by using alts to move stuff around, and even financing their wanna be pirate activities are a real problem, and ccp needs to further penalize -10 gameplay in highsec.

hopefully ccp will "fix" --5.0 sec gameplay by forcing them to fly either a shuttle or a pod only. and forcing them to "play eve" and go farm sec rating back killing NPCs in null.


all that said, you are an idiot for expecting highsec to be safe. its not, and people will take your stuff, get over it.



Thank you for the post. My original post stated High-Sec should be secure not safe. Your point is what i was talking about. A -10 should not have the right to use the gates and enter the High-Sec regions. I do appreciate the degrading statement as well .
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-03-09 04:41:29 UTC
hmm...

More war targets.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

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