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[proposal] Concurrent training of alts
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Tenobia Aybara
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-28 18:04:35 UTC
Currently you can only have one character training a skill at any one time.

I propose that the concurrent training of characters be enabled such that of the three characters on each account:

If 0 or 1 character has an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 1x real time

If 2 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 2x real time

If 3 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 3x real time

Each account has a certain amount of 'game time' remaining. A PLEX (and equivalent subscriptions) currently add 30 days of game time. However if a player was to run all queues on their characters this would reduce to 10 days.

The main point of this is to allow players to invest small amounts on top of their subscription costs into the addition of new characters without having to run multiple accounts, this would not allow players to log into multiple characters from one account at one time as it is intended for temporary measures, eg investing one months worth of subscription into training a trading/mining/missioning alt.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2011-10-28 18:12:21 UTC
So, this is what... the 6th or 7th iteration of the "lemme train multiple toons on the same acct at the same time" thread in as many days?

NO.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-28 18:18:34 UTC
Tenobia Aybara wrote:
Currently you can only have one character training a skill at any one time.

I propose that the concurrent training of characters be enabled such that of the three characters on each account:

If 0 or 1 character has an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 1x real time

If 2 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 2x real time

If 3 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 3x real time

Each account has a certain amount of 'game time' remaining. A PLEX (and equivalent subscriptions) currently add 30 days of game time. However if a player was to run all queues on their characters this would reduce to 10 days.

The main point of this is to allow players to invest small amounts on top of their subscription costs into the addition of new characters without having to run multiple accounts, this would not allow players to log into multiple characters from one account at one time as it is intended for temporary measures, eg investing one months worth of subscription into training a trading/mining/missioning alt.


So for those of us who PAY for our accounts..we get charged 2 to 3 times more?Shocked

Uh...hell no.

Go back into your cave please troll...shoo.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#4 - 2011-10-28 21:03:15 UTC
An idea I woudl support is to have one skill queue per account, so that I could queue up training on my alts without having to switch to the currently training character and pause their training. As an alternative, having each character training at 1/N speed (1/2 if two characters are training, 1/3 for all three) might be a workable option. Consuming "game time" faster is not an option.

If you want to train other characters at the same time, simply use another account. It only costs 2 PLEX to shift the characters between accounts.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-28 21:21:01 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
An idea I woudl support is to have one skill queue per account, so that I could queue up training on my alts without having to switch to the currently training character and pause their training. As an alternative, having each character training at 1/N speed (1/2 if two characters are training, 1/3 for all three) might be a workable option. Consuming "game time" faster is not an option.

If you want to train other characters at the same time, simply use another account. It only costs 2 PLEX to shift the characters between accounts.


agreed

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-10-28 21:27:16 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
An idea I woudl support is to have one skill queue per account, so that I could queue up training on my alts without having to switch to the currently training character and pause their training. As an alternative, having each character training at 1/N speed (1/2 if two characters are training, 1/3 for all three) might be a workable option. Consuming "game time" faster is not an option.

If you want to train other characters at the same time, simply use another account. It only costs 2 PLEX to shift the characters between accounts.


agreed

but the OP's arguement that you all arent understanding is that THAT solution rwequires work and effort, which would be TOTALLY unfair to force OP to do in a agme all about WORK and REWARD BASED ON AFOREMENTIONED WORK.

at OP: wanna train 2 characters at once? get 2 accounts. if not, deal with it, not everyone is a pretty little princess that get whatever they want, regardless of what your daddy told you.
Tenobia Aybara
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-10-28 22:02:01 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Tenobia Aybara wrote:
Currently you can only have one character training a skill at any one time.

I propose that the concurrent training of characters be enabled such that of the three characters on each account:

If 0 or 1 character has an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 1x real time

If 2 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 2x real time

If 3 characters have an active skill queue 'game time' is consumed at 3x real time

Each account has a certain amount of 'game time' remaining. A PLEX (and equivalent subscriptions) currently add 30 days of game time. However if a player was to run all queues on their characters this would reduce to 10 days.

The main point of this is to allow players to invest small amounts on top of their subscription costs into the addition of new characters without having to run multiple accounts, this would not allow players to log into multiple characters from one account at one time as it is intended for temporary measures, eg investing one months worth of subscription into training a trading/mining/missioning alt.


So for those of us who PAY for our accounts..we get charged 2 to 3 times more?Shocked

Uh...hell no.

Go back into your cave please troll...shoo.


OK either you don't understand the words you read or you are browsing the board just to insult people. The post clearly states that a current subscription adds 30 days of game time. So if you only train one character (like you can at the moment) it costs EXACTLY THE SAME as what it does now. If you want to train multiple characters it costs the same as running concurrent accounts with these characters. The benefit of this system is not requiring a transfer fee for 'completed' alts and not requiring a start-up fee for the new accounts.

As you are concerned of the costs, lets run this by you:

ATM the most efficient method of training an alt is:

- Create new account using a buddy invite from your main
+21days training

- Subscribe for 1 month (equiv cost 1 PLEX)
+ 30 days on second account, + 30 days primary account

- Transfer character to main account (equiv cost 2 PLEX)

so you've shelled out the equivalent of 3 PLEX and got 81 days of training, rather than the 90 its 'worth'

However under my suggestion to get the same amount of training you would:
- 3 PLEX
+ 90 days of training

My suggestion also has the benefiting of catering from fact that if a plan doesn't round exactly to a month you don't lose any training time you have paid for.

Also to the last obnoxious poster: I am posting from my trading alt, which is represented by a female character because some people presume the person controlling it is female and give better deals - weird but it works. And believe it or not I pay my own way in this game, like many of the more reasonable people here.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#8 - 2011-10-29 00:20:53 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
An idea I woudl support is to have one skill queue per account, so that I could queue up training on my alts without having to switch to the currently training character and pause their training. .


Yes please.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-29 00:38:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Tenobia Aybara wrote:
OK either you don't understand the words you read or you are browsing the board just to insult people. The post clearly states that a current subscription adds 30 days of game time. So if you only train one character (like you can at the moment) it costs EXACTLY THE SAME as what it does now. If you want to train multiple characters it costs the same as running concurrent accounts with these characters. The benefit of this system is not requiring a transfer fee for 'completed' alts and not requiring a start-up fee for the new accounts.

As you are concerned of the costs, lets run this by you:

ATM the most efficient method of training an alt is:

- Create new account using a buddy invite from your main
+21days training

- Subscribe for 1 month (equiv cost 1 PLEX)
+ 30 days on second account, + 30 days primary account

- Transfer character to main account (equiv cost 2 PLEX)

so you've shelled out the equivalent of 3 PLEX and got 81 days of training, rather than the 90 its 'worth'

However under my suggestion to get the same amount of training you would:
- 3 PLEX
+ 90 days of training

My suggestion also has the benefiting of catering from fact that if a plan doesn't round exactly to a month you don't lose any training time you have paid for.

Also to the last obnoxious poster: I am posting from my trading alt, which is represented by a female character because some people presume the person controlling it is female and give better deals - weird but it works. And believe it or not I pay my own way in this game, like many of the more reasonable people here.


So what your saynig is...spend PLEX to train faster.

Ok...maybe my response wasn't clear enough.

H E L L N O

Clear enough for you?
Take it as you want...you can paint it up...make it look pretty...dress it up...but this is just a very poor troll.

The day someone can spend money to acellerate their accounts in an unfair advantage is the day I flat quit.
Stop hiding it and come out with it...your lazy...and your tired of working for your hard earned SP's.

Buck up....or Get out.

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Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#10 - 2011-10-30 11:57:28 UTC

Allow, same account characters to be defined as 'hench(wo)men', a publicly know assistant to character.
Henchmen would have their own training queue and pickup a percentage of the training points a character trains.
The Henchmen can only train a skill already known to the main and only to a level below the main.
David Fightmaster
Golden Goose Privateers
#11 - 2011-10-31 01:48:15 UTC
Hench? That's so gay lol. I have 3 accounts and do just fine. No to this proposal.