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Shin Chai
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2013-03-08 15:54:16 UTC
Hannah Flex wrote:
GJ CCP, I know you gotta keep standards & practices secret but everyone loves progress. Keep up the good work.

http://themittani.com/news/ccps-war-bots-stepping-their-game



Cool!! Now there is no need for James 315 or New World Order or Bat Country or "Bot Miner Whines"
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#102 - 2013-03-08 16:29:36 UTC
Shin Chai wrote:
Hannah Flex wrote:
GJ CCP, I know you gotta keep standards & practices secret but everyone loves progress. Keep up the good work.

http://themittani.com/news/ccps-war-bots-stepping-their-game



Cool!! Now there is no need for James 315 or New World Order or Bat Country or "Bot Miner Whines"


Then there would be nothing to do in highsec, its gotta be good for something

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#103 - 2013-03-08 17:57:09 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Shin Chai wrote:
Hannah Flex wrote:
GJ CCP, I know you gotta keep standards & practices secret but everyone loves progress. Keep up the good work.

http://themittani.com/news/ccps-war-bots-stepping-their-game

Cool!! Now there is no need for James 315 or New World Order or Bat Country or "Bot Miner Whines"


Then there would be nothing to do in highsec, its gotta be good for something

You don't have to be a bot to be bot-aspirant.

Neither are non-bots all smart enough at fitting a tank.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#104 - 2013-03-08 18:06:15 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
All hail King Sreegs!! Cool


Hail to the King Baby!!

- rejoices at getting to use a duke nukem quote to actually mean something :) -


It's not a Duke Nukem quote... It's a Bruce Cambell, Evil Dead quote (Evil Dead III: Medievil Dead IIRC).
Hannah Flex
#105 - 2013-03-08 18:08:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannah Flex
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2013-03-08 18:13:08 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
All hail King Sreegs!! Cool


Hail to the King Baby!!

- rejoices at getting to use a duke nukem quote to actually mean something :) -


It's not a Duke Nukem quote... It's a Bruce Cambell, Evil Dead quote (Evil Dead III: Medievil Dead IIRC).

Actually, it's a Duke Nukem Quote.
It may be also a quote somebody else uses, as most quotes nowadays are only copies of copies of copies anyway.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#107 - 2013-03-08 18:19:07 UTC
Hannah Flex wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
You don't have to be a bot to be bot-aspirant.

Neither are non-bots all smart enough at fitting a tank.

The 45 minute ore-hold mackinaw is a gateway drug to full-fledged botting

Shrug, well if that's the lifecycle of a miner. Retriever, Mackinaw, all yield mackinaw, bot, banned

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#108 - 2013-03-08 18:20:01 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
All hail King Sreegs!! Cool


Hail to the King Baby!!

- rejoices at getting to use a duke nukem quote to actually mean something :) -


It's not a Duke Nukem quote... It's a Bruce Cambell, Evil Dead quote (Evil Dead III: Medievil Dead IIRC).

Actually, it's a Duke Nukem Quote.
It may be also a quote somebody else uses, as most quotes nowadays are only copies of copies of copies anyway.

It wasn't an accident. Most Duke Nukem quotes we're referencing movies or other games.
Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2013-03-08 18:38:29 UTC
Robus Muvila wrote:
Charlies Ponzi wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


News like this is something we can all celebrate.


If it's such good news, then there will be an official CCP source you can cite instead of the head of goon propaganda.



I find it interesting that Mittens knew all the details (exact software, bans, and etc.) in great detail.



Mittens writes the WHOLE site by hand, it's just him, a dark room, a keyboard and 2.4lbs of MDMA.

Truth. Shocked


Sounds likely, honestly.

It's amazing how he manages to review so many books, movies, vidjagames of an MMO type, and also do the news pieces for Eve. Not only that but to write with a different style, consistent to each byline.
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#110 - 2013-03-08 18:52:03 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
All hail King Sreegs!! Cool


Hail to the King Baby!!

- rejoices at getting to use a duke nukem quote to actually mean something :) -


It's not a Duke Nukem quote... It's a Bruce Cambell, Evil Dead quote (Evil Dead III: Medievil Dead IIRC).

Actually, it's a Duke Nukem Quote.
It may be also a quote somebody else uses, as most quotes nowadays are only copies of copies of copies anyway.

It wasn't an accident. Most Duke Nukem quotes we're referencing movies or other games.


Duke Nukem3d 1996. Army of Darkness 1992

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#111 - 2013-03-08 18:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzy Warstl
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
(excuse my utter ignorance about how bot engines work)

That's great news but...

... do programmers who have Python, LAMP and Visual Studio installed also risk being flagged by those detection routines?

Because I'd kinda hate to be banned because of my (now former) job.

I'd have been banned long ago were that the case, running on Linux with full development resources installed.

Blizzard didn't care either, when I was running WoW on the same machine.

Neither did Three Rings when Puzzle Pirates was the thing to do.

I think the false positives on cheating are more often people who weren't cheating in the way they think they were banned for rather than people who weren't cheating at all.

"My little brother must have installed the bot software, I wasn't actually *using* it!"

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Skorpynekomimi
#112 - 2013-03-08 19:06:27 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
We will not state what changes were made but yes there were changes made targeting specific malicious actors who are aware of the fact that they were targeted and have made some early attempts at guessing how they were targeted on their forums which is where this information seems to be sourced from. We don't have any further comment on the topic at this time but it can stay open for discussion as it's based in fact.


Good. Botters are a blight on my profit margins, and should all go die in a magnetic fire.

Economic PVP
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#113 - 2013-03-08 20:19:21 UTC
Komen wrote:
Robus Muvila wrote:
Charlies Ponzi wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


News like this is something we can all celebrate.


If it's such good news, then there will be an official CCP source you can cite instead of the head of goon propaganda.



I find it interesting that Mittens knew all the details (exact software, bans, and etc.) in great detail.



Mittens writes the WHOLE site by hand, it's just him, a dark room, a keyboard and 2.4lbs of MDMA.

Truth. Shocked


Sounds likely, honestly.

It's amazing how he manages to review so many books, movies, vidjagames of an MMO type, and also do the news pieces for Eve. Not only that but to write with a different style, consistent to each byline.


The comment part man. I really want a webcam feed of him when he write THAT up. Arguing with himself must be hard after a while. Especially with some completely flawed points he build up sometime.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-03-08 20:55:25 UTC
Get rid of the bots in Jita and I guarantee we'll see a lot less congestion when trying to go to Jita.

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Chelly Tau
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-03-08 21:17:10 UTC
I'm glad to see CCP going after botters in force. Sounds like this is dealing a big blow to them.

However, I can't help but be a little concerned about the game client scanning my computer (what information is sent from the scan, and where are these information sent to?). Also, hopefully whatever they used doesn't end up messing with non-botting players like some fail anti-cheat/anti-botting programs out there.
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2013-03-08 21:35:17 UTC
Now James 315/6 and his cronies can leave the proper miners alone and crawl back in the hole where they came from.

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2013-03-08 21:38:26 UTC
Huge props to CCP. Well done. Keep it up!

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#118 - 2013-03-08 21:43:17 UTC
ctx2007 wrote:
Now James 315/6 and his cronies can leave the proper miners alone and crawl back in the hole where they came from.


what's the difference between a botter who checks his client every hour and an afk mackinaw miner who checks his client every hour

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#119 - 2013-03-08 22:03:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
Andski wrote:
ctx2007 wrote:
Now James 315/6 and his cronies can leave the proper miners alone and crawl back in the hole where they came from.


what's the difference between a botter who checks his client every hour and an afk mackinaw miner who checks his client every hour

1) One is violating the EULA, the other is not.
2) One is targeted by CCP security, the other is not.
3) As Macks fill up in less than an hour, one would mine more than the other.
4) If neither checked, one would be mining after an hour, the other would not.

Edit: But the big one is #1. The EULA is not an in-game contract, its in the real world. Its a contract that we all agreed to. Botters are breaking that real world contract. Surely you can see the difference between breaking a contract in the real world vs a fantasy one? You can tell the difference between reality and fantasy?

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2013-03-08 22:14:49 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Andski wrote:
ctx2007 wrote:
Now James 315/6 and his cronies can leave the proper miners alone and crawl back in the hole where they came from.


what's the difference between a botter who checks his client every hour and an afk mackinaw miner who checks his client every hour

1) One is violating the EULA, the other is not.
2) One is targeted by CCP security, the other is not.
3) As Macks fill up in less than an hour, one would mine more than the other.
4) If neither checked, one would be mining after an hour, the other would not.

Edit: But the big one is #1. The EULA is not an in-game contract, its in the real world. Its a contract that we all agreed to. Botters are breaking that real world contract. Surely you can see the difference between breaking a contract in the real world vs a fantasy one? You can tell the difference between reality and fantasy?

5) If the rock being mined is depleted the bot moves on to another, the AFK player cannot
6) If bumped out of range of the rock the bot can move back into place, the AFK player cannot