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Medium Artillery Now Useless
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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#1 - 2013-03-08 11:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rab See
Ever since the changes to heavy missiles lately, I have noted how useless my artillery skills are.

I trained 'arty' to get range on my minmatar ships but I am suffering badly from an inability to understand all the technical bits that make them work.

I have to switch ammo to change range, this make DPS go down/up depending on ammo type. - amazingly tracking also changes, ammo choice is the yo yo of capability.

Small targets are smaller than my guns base signature, so its hard to hit them, even worse if my tracking cant keep up with them and boy - tracking is pants on artillery. When they get in close, forget it! Worse, is the maddening fitting to get a good pile of arty onto my ship while maintaining a tank.

Lucky that they changed the minmatar ships to be more missile oriented. Now I can fly a BC that doesn't suffer from any of these issues, and those pesky frigs can eat my drones.

Thanks to heavy missiles, I can shoot from enormous range, get consistent damage, actually hit small targets - even better with special missiles. As I close in, I can still hit those targets in exactly the same way. I don't even need to navigate my ship anymore, traversal - pah - just orbit a can and wheeeeee.
4runner
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-08 11:11:07 UTC
Dual web Loki, federation webbers, orbit at 20-25km and fire away, works like a charm, I prefer AC thou
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#3 - 2013-03-08 11:44:55 UTC
4runner wrote:
Dual web Loki, federation webbers, orbit at 20-25km and fire away, works like a charm, I prefer AC thou


I'll try this when I finish training up all my missile skills - boy - I wish I could swap the points wasted.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2013-03-08 11:51:03 UTC
Arties are great

HML's are also great

People will saying varying things about those two though because people are bad.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2013-03-08 14:01:25 UTC
You want to use Medium Arty? Then go for the Stabber Fleet Issue... great tracking bonuses and great speed to kite from range and stay at range.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-03-08 20:14:48 UTC
In arti use in pve: kite anything smaller than you, orbit anything that is same size or bigger than you.

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Eat dessert first!
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#7 - 2013-03-08 20:18:16 UTC
Rab See wrote:
Ever since the changes to heavy missiles lately, I have noted how useless my artillery skills are.

I trained 'arty' to get range on my minmatar ships but I am suffering badly from an inability to understand all the technical bits that make them work.

I have to switch ammo to change range, this make DPS go down/up depending on ammo type. - amazingly tracking also changes, ammo choice is the yo yo of capability.

Small targets are smaller than my guns base signature, so its hard to hit them, even worse if my tracking cant keep up with them and boy - tracking is pants on artillery. When they get in close, forget it! Worse, is the maddening fitting to get a good pile of arty onto my ship while maintaining a tank.

Lucky that they changed the minmatar ships to be more missile oriented. Now I can fly a BC that doesn't suffer from any of these issues, and those pesky frigs can eat my drones.

Thanks to heavy missiles, I can shoot from enormous range, get consistent damage, actually hit small targets - even better with special missiles. As I close in, I can still hit those targets in exactly the same way. I don't even need to navigate my ship anymore, traversal - pah - just orbit a can and wheeeeee.

"Ever since missiles got changed artillery is now useless"

OP you're not making sense.
Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
#8 - 2013-03-08 20:20:07 UTC
lol it's like arguing about which ezmode is ez-er

so sad
Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#9 - 2013-03-08 20:24:45 UTC
I disagree
Larloch TheAncient
Freindly Mining Corporation
#10 - 2013-03-08 20:44:48 UTC
Obvious troll thread, and just because you fail at manual piloting. (Piloting in general actually).


If your in a arty ship, why exactly would you WANT to close range?

You fit scrams to your arty ships?



In any case, arty is fine.


Boost auto's!
stoicfaux
#11 - 2013-03-08 21:02:09 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
/facepalm

Context helps: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=209936

+1 like to OP for successful troll


edit: okay, to be fair, it was mostly sarcasm/satire as opposed to pure trolling, however the +1 like stands.

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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#12 - 2013-03-08 21:13:06 UTC
Med rails have always been useless

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#13 - 2013-03-08 21:36:09 UTC
I don't think anyone got the joke
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#14 - 2013-03-08 21:55:25 UTC
Medium Beam Laser I are now useless. Yeah remember them? Evil You can't find them anymore. How about that, so useless you can't even find them anymore on the market.Sad

















Oh. They were renamed? Really?


Nevermind.P

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-03-08 21:57:20 UTC
They should remove AC and make Minmatar pure missile.Big smile
Alara IonStorm
#16 - 2013-03-08 22:18:28 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
I don't think anyone got the joke

I got it arourd when he was talking about ammo, it was obvious the second he said heavy missile.
Ginger Barbarella
#17 - 2013-03-08 22:39:38 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
I don't think anyone got the joke


There was something funny there? Just seems to be a waste of bandwidth (and 30 seconds of my life gone) to me...

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