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How do I destroy DAGAN?

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#21 - 2013-02-21 06:53:02 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Back in the day there were people who just sat around killing Dagan over & over again all day long. They hung out in that system and waited for newbies to ask for help.


Why?

Because we all had to do that mission when we were new, too, and the current version is actually easier than it used to be.

Or, in short, because **** Dagan.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#22 - 2013-02-21 08:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I've killed Dagan many many times, but I've never done the Blood-Stained Stars arc.

Heading to Arnon now in blaster Harpy. I could use some Minmatar faction.

... and down goes Dagan once again (solo this time).

Raised my Minmatar standing from -4 to -2, so was worth it.

See you in 3 months (or sooner) Dagan!
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-02-21 11:52:57 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Arion Ruairc wrote:
Thanks to Tau for helping!! This was my first time to team up with someone. Looks like it's time to join a corp.

Glad to help Big smile

Do find a corp, and don't feel that you have to stay in a bad one.


Double what he said, If you find yourself in an ego corp that does nothing, doesn't really talk, no one really logs in or just appears to be a corp where the CEO is living off your tax's. Move :)
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-23 03:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Arion Ruairc wrote:
I'm on one of the beginner missions and I simply can't kill Dagan. He keeps regenerating his ship and I can't destroy it. I've searched the forums and can't seem to find the answer. Can anyone help a noob? Thanks.

If you can wait until tomorrow i'll help. I'm doing the SOE epic just for ***** and giggles and I'm getting close to the end. My myrmidon is pretty big overkill for these missions.

Lost Greybeard wrote:
Because we all had to do that mission when we were new, too, and the current version is actually easier than it used to be.

Actually, when I started there weren't any missions. I vaguely remember an alt killing him once I think, but basically Dagan is new to me.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#25 - 2013-02-23 08:16:33 UTC
Going to finish advanced military on a new toon today. I'll be hunting Dagan again too, with 2 chars actually in the next week.

Remove standings and insurance.

teedeepee
Amarrian Special Activities Division
#26 - 2013-03-08 10:58:40 UTC
I just ruined Dagan's day in a Maller fitted as follows:


  • 5x Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I with multifrequency crystals
  • 1x 10MN Afterburner I
  • 2x Cap Recharger II
  • 3x Extruded Heat Sink I (rate of fire is of the essence in denting Dagan's shield faster than it regenerates)
  • 3x Power Diagnostic System I (provides a bit of extra cap without using medium slots)


The above fitout being slightly cap unstable, I cycled my afterburner on and off to effectively kite Dagan within a range of 12-15km without drying up my capacitor (YMMV depending on your skill points). That range rendered his weapon pretty ineffective while my lasers were hitting him hard. He blew up in less than five minutes, and that's after I picked the Amarr commander as my ally (allegedly it makes Dagan more resistant to EM and thermal damage, although I've read elsewhere that this was no longer the case). I also launched 1x Hobgoblin and 1x Valkyrie drones but lost them quickly and I don't think they dealt much damage. You might want to carry 3x Hobgoblins and sic them to keep Dagan's escort busy, if you can't be bothered dealing with it yourself.
Hollis Boirelle
Variables Unlimited
Urukian Collective
#27 - 2013-03-08 17:38:26 UTC
I did the arc just after the tutorial missions and finished a few days ago, so all my basic combat and weapon skills are still pretty bad. It took me 6 or 8 attempts experimenting with different fittings to actually kill Dagan on my own, but in the end I succeeded in a Catalyst with 8x Light Electron Blasters (Antimater charges), webs, and a bunch of capacitor rechargers/flux rechargers.

At a 500m orbit with webs, I didn't get hit much at all but wearing him down took a very long time. The whole fight took something like an hour, and I burned through over 10,000 rounds of AM charges.

If I'd known at the time that you can do missions as a fleet, I'd definitely have called for backup to help take him down.
Cascade Vandiliere
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-03-08 21:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Cascade Vandiliere
Fairly easy in a catalyst with 8 blasters at 500m. Took about 8 minutes with my current skill build and tracking bounses.

Check out fits for your ship of choice at http://eve.battleclinic.com

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/61092-Low-SP-Solo-Dagan-Catalyst.html

They have solo Dagan fits listed.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-03-08 22:35:48 UTC
Cascade Vandiliere wrote:
Fairly easy in a catalyst with 8 blasters at 500m. Took about 8 minutes with my current skill build and tracking bounses.

Check out fits for your ship of choice at http://eve.battleclinic.com

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/61092-Low-SP-Solo-Dagan-Catalyst.html

They have solo Dagan fits listed.


The only danger with taking fits from Battleclinic is:

1.) You don't know if they are proven working fits or just EFT warrior's ideas.

2.) They can be horribly outdated (your link is from June 2012, well before the ship rebalancing started) and thus don't have to work anymore.

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Hollis Boirelle
Variables Unlimited
Urukian Collective
#30 - 2013-03-09 04:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hollis Boirelle
Cascade Vandiliere wrote:
Fairly easy in a catalyst with 8 blasters at 500m. Took about 8 minutes with my current skill build and tracking bonuses.

Check out fits for your ship of choice at http://eve.battleclinic.com

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/61092-Low-SP-Solo-Dagan-Catalyst.html

They have solo Dagan fits listed.
So better guns would have been better -- no big surprise there. Blink I wasn't suggesting it was a good fit, only that it was barely adequate.

I bought the blasters there in system and just filled the slots with the first guns I found. For earlier portions of the arc I'd been using 150mm rails, but Dagan chewed me up pretty badly at range.

That is a very interesting site. I haven't looked too closely at weapon comparisons yet.

If I understand the basic weapon x charge values properly, it looks like just using the Limited Light Ion Blasters suggested in your link would have done around ~18% more damage than the Light Electron Blasters I was using -- and using the Navy ammo they suggested as well would have done ~35% more dps than what I used.

That's before you add the rate of fire boosters or skill bonuses into account. I have no Idea how those calculations work yet.

Since I was already putting out enough damage to overcome the shield and armor repair (if only just barely), it's easy to see where an extra 35% (or more) DPS would have helped out a lot.

Thank you for the link and for the input!

J'Poll wrote:
The only danger with taking fits from Battleclinic is:

1.) You don't know if they are proven working fits or just EFT warrior's ideas.

2.) They can be horribly outdated (your link is from June 2012, well before the ship rebalancing started) and thus don't have to work anymore.
This is very good to know. Thank you.
Tara Tyrael
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
#31 - 2013-03-10 01:38:04 UTC
Kane Alvo wrote:
[quote=Jonah Gravenstein]
If you're doing the SoE epic arc early on, you won't have the DPS to solo Dagan. I read somewhere that you need around 100-110 DPS to break Dagan's tank.


Did it in lower skilled destroyer with 150 dps and couldn't cracked it...
Got so annoyed by this guy that I actually flown a Machariel 10 jumps and blasted him out with 1150 dps :)

Dagan wasn't amused with that :D
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#32 - 2013-03-10 01:55:35 UTC
I'm just about to run the epic arc again, I'm going to do it with a rocket Catalyst this time, because I can Lol and it'll be a giggle. I used a RF Firetail last time, next time I may try an Algos or Corax.

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Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-03-10 11:44:00 UTC
Arion Ruairc wrote:
I'm on one of the beginner missions and I simply can't kill Dagan. He keeps regenerating his ship and I can't destroy it. I've searched the forums and can't seem to find the answer. Can anyone help a noob? Thanks.

Get someone to help. That's what I did.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken

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