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Solo Piloting? Piracy?

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TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-03-07 15:30:38 UTC
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Some misconceptions


1) eve works better when you play with others

2) playing with others doesn't mean blob (people use the term blob any time they're out numbered, that's not a blob. If you're not forming a large bubble of ships that all bump off each other when you land from a fleet warp, you're not a blob)

3) Someone having more SP than you doesn't necessarily make them better than you. If I have 5mil in industrial ships and you have 1 mil in frigs, you're going to kill me. If I'm in a battleship and you're under my guns in a frig and kill my drones then I'd be reasonably dead in the water until backup appears.

What I would suggest you do, is go looking for corps who are floating around high sec doing things, then war dec them and fight them gerilla warfare style. Pick your targets, break their toys, cause a fuss. Keep the war up and tell them you'll stop for isk.

Although, the idea of "fair 1v1 PvP" has no real place in eve.

Every fight you get into should be either because you believe you have the upper hand or because you were caught by surprise.

Both of these require friends in game.
Tialee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-03-07 16:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tialee
It is possible to solo pvp on a 2 month old character. As most here said, there is a limit to how much skills matter. If you're flying a kiting frigate against a brawler that can't hit you with it's range, it doesn't matter how many skill points that brawler has. There's much more to this game than skill points.

As far as solo PvP goes, get into low sec faction warfare areas. They tend to be full of frigates, and you can get a lot of 1v1 by just roaming around and checking the complexes for people. Sometimes they will run, sometimes they'll fight, but it's a great way to find fights. If you're in a frigate, then you can concentrate on Novice plexes and be certain that they won't have anything bigger fight you (just watch out for gangs). The other plexes are just as viable if the system is less populated.

Now I will say that this won't make you a ton of money, but if you're just flying T1 frigates, then it's only 10mil a loss and you can buy a lot of figs with a single plex until you get things figured out.


EDIT: Of course if you just want to build your piloting skills and learn how to fly without the whole "piracy" bit, you can join Red vs Blue and learn a lot that way and have the frigs paid for.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#23 - 2013-03-07 16:17:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Alice Saki wrote:
Also I do believe Can flipping is dead.


I kill at least a couple of can flippers on each trip through highsec. If can flipping is dead, the can flippers haven't been told yet. Fly from belt to belt in a quiet systems... find a miner with his combat drones out and steal from their can. His drones will autoregress you and you can kill him and take the spoils. I say a "quiet system" because if you do it in one that's frequently travelled then people like me will catch and kill you in the act.

There is more risk to can flipping now, which is how it should be. If you thought you would be learning to PvP by can flipping the old way then you were wrong. You'd get a few defenceless miner kills under you belt and then go die in a fire when you wanted to shoot someone who could fight back. If anything can flipping is now a better training tool because you actually have to worry about other people.

As for highsec piracy... It works fine. You just have to be a little inventive. I know a chap who makes 500m per week "pirating" in highsec. Sure there's some scamming involved but that's less than half of it. I'm sure you want to know how, but I am not going to say... because I plan on doing this myself and the more people do it the less profitable it will be.

Anyway... I could rant indefinitely on this subject so I will stop here. But as a pirate and solo PvPer, I can attest that both professions are more alive and well than they have ever been.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#24 - 2013-03-08 01:14:19 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Alice Saki wrote:
Also I do believe Can flipping is dead.


I kill at least a couple of can flippers on each trip through highsec. If can flipping is dead, the can flippers haven't been told yet. Fly from belt to belt in a quiet systems... find a miner with his combat drones out and steal from their can. His drones will autoregress you and you can kill him and take the spoils. I say a "quiet system" because if you do it in one that's frequently travelled then people like me will catch and kill you in the act.

There is more risk to can flipping now, which is how it should be. If you thought you would be learning to PvP by can flipping the old way then you were wrong. You'd get a few defenceless miner kills under you belt and then go die in a fire when you wanted to shoot someone who could fight back. If anything can flipping is now a better training tool because you actually have to worry about other people.

As for highsec piracy... It works fine. You just have to be a little inventive. I know a chap who makes 500m per week "pirating" in highsec. Sure there's some scamming involved but that's less than half of it. I'm sure you want to know how, but I am not going to say... because I plan on doing this myself and the more people do it the less profitable it will be.

Anyway... I could rant indefinitely on this subject so I will stop here. But as a pirate and solo PvPer, I can attest that both professions are more alive and well than they have ever been.


Drones will not "auto agress a player for stealing from a can,"

And Can flipping is dead because a retriever can hold 25km3, there is no reason to jet can anymore.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#25 - 2013-03-08 01:28:28 UTC
Roime wrote:
Hisec is just the starter area, there isn't much you can do there besides the new player tutorials. The rules placed there to protect new players restrict gameplay too much and make it impossible to enjoy EVE.

I find plenty of solo in lowsec, you need to forget the SP thing. Skill points have never killed anyone. Player experience is the lethal weapon. While sometimes old characters are piloted by experienced players, you can as often meet pilots (new alts) with low SP but insane human skillz flying their ships, or really old toons with only hilarious lossmails.

Another thing to realize is that all skills are capped at level V. This means that you reach competitive level really fast, and can max your skills for, say, T1 frigs in matter of months. That 10-year old character can't have any higher skill levels than you, he just has more injected skills, allowing more ship and weapon choices for him.

So pick a ship, focus your training and on paper you're as good as anyone. The difference comes from player skills, and there really isn't a shortcut (besided reading all the pvp guides and practicing piloting with friends and NPCS), you need to lock them up, point them and do your best to pop them. Don't worry about losing, just try to learn from every engagement and don't repeat your mistakes. You can even convo your opponents after a fight, explain that you are new and willing to learn and maybe they tell you why you died. You'll find that lowseccers are generally chill and fair dudes and most are happy to help out a newbro.

Good luck!


People die daily in highsec to two week old noobs, I'm unclear as to what highsec you are talking about? Shocked



Signature removed - CCP Eterne

Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#26 - 2013-03-08 02:20:55 UTC
Op, yes, I'm a 4 year 'vet' of Eve. But here's some good newbie advice:

No you don't need a gazillion Sp to be effective. As solo, it's a bit more restrictive, but player skill is all that really matters. Along with Cohones. Player skill you get by doing your homework, researching, theorycrafting, checking sites, gaining information. Either about someone you want to molest, or how to molest people in general.

I killed my first 3 battleships in a single engagement as a 3 week old noob. Yes, I had help in the form of a couple of fleet members in battleships, but they were long range, I was the 3 week old newbie, in a rifter with no guns, only a couple of small neuts, a web, a scram and an afterburner, that was crazy enough to fly over to the enemy battleships, pinned them down, and kept holding them down until my fleetmates killed them. Without me, those battleships would have simply warped off. Without them, yeah, I would have been sushi. ( in fact, when I tried this on a 4th ship, didn't know what it was except it was some kind of cruiser ( a Loki ), i got splattered all over the place )

Anyway, you want to be a pirate, dare to lose some ships, you will have to get used to doing that anyway, it's part of Eve.
Go down into lowsec, see if there's a miner in a quiet system, and try and take him out.
See someone in a similar sized ship, who is also a pirate, but he's probably got friends nearby, dare him in a 1 on 1. Cooler pirates that see that you're a newbie with a bit of spine will probably honer it, then smack you around all the corners of the solarsystem before sending you home in a pod. If you win, be gracefull and tell them it was a goodfight. if you lose, man up that you lost, and ask what you could have done better.

This is Eve, do what you want to do, as losing is simply a part of the game, and helps you learn. Your options are only limited to what you dare to do.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-03-08 08:05:24 UTC
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
I apologize if I'm misinformed here, but is High Sec Piracy now dead? Is it still a viable activity in the game?

'High sec piracy' is an oxymoron, like 'military intelligence' or 'Microsoft Works'.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken

Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-03-08 16:44:39 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:

And Can flipping is dead because a retriever can hold 25km3, there is no reason to jet can anymore.

Someone should probably tell the miners then. I keep seeing people jet mining into Freight Containers, now that freighters have a jet tube.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#29 - 2013-03-08 17:17:51 UTC
I've often wondered what happens when people shoot at all those NPC "Merchant" "Trader" and "Huckster" ships that are constantly flowing in and out of stations in hisec. Do they get CONCORDed? A suspect flag? Navy response?

I know I've seen at least one blown up before and sure enough it dropped loot, but I don't remember what happened to the pilot who did it.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#30 - 2013-03-08 17:47:20 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
I've often wondered what happens when people shoot at all those NPC "Merchant" "Trader" and "Huckster" ships that are constantly flowing in and out of stations in hisec. Do they get CONCORDed? A suspect flag? Navy response?

I know I've seen at least one blown up before and sure enough it dropped loot, but I don't remember what happened to the pilot who did it.


not sure, but I believe it only gives you a big standing hit with whatever npc corp the NPC is affiliated with, along with their guns firing at you if you're shooting it at their station. probably also a faction hit, so eventually the navy might come looking for you, possibly also a suspect flag for being naughty.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

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