EVE General Discussion

Solution proposal: NISK

Null sec wants to be completely autonomous. Let them. Let them effectively secede from the Union, and give them their own currency, NISK (Null Inter-Stellar Kredits) that can only be used in null to purchase null goods and services. Give null their POS upgrades and increase the number of available production slots by a factor of x10,000.

Sever all ties with "civilized" space completely, except 1 gate connection in each of the 4 empire's space. And that one connection should be on the furthest fringe system of space, as far away from any trade hub as possible. These 4 systems should be upgraded to 1.0 security and patrolled by CONCORD.

Goods produced in null space with NISK have 0 value anywhere else. Passing through one of the gates with illegal NISK goods will result in loss of ship and cargo. NISK can not be converted to ISK, or traded to other players outside of null space.

All null space residents receive a -10.0 security status that resets back to -10.0 daily, at every downtime.

Goods produced with ISK can be transported from high sec into null sec after paying a 50% sales tax.

try option B..So bingo for you.

You might have read the rest of the thread where I pointed that out very clearly.

ok. then let me know when outposts got their slots reduced? What did CCP say when they made this change?

Or let's speak about POSes: when they lost they refining efficiency?

Or maybe once outposts couldn't be recaptured?

Maybe you can even show the point in time when industry in 0.0 "sov" space wasn't bad?

Why would anyone export anything as it would instantly be worthless.

You might just say you are concerned about Null having a working industry as you would have to compete with more people and the markets would not just be in Hi-sec.

As unbalanced as 5 hi-sec systems being able to outproduce the entirity of sov 0.0?

Shallow one liners like this are so Malcanis 2.0.

1.0 and with his law in signature was different and very worth of CSM 8.


Now tell me in the post above where did I say that null sec slots are fine or that hi sec is balanced with null sec.

What I say is that Tippia's concept is OK-ish but have to take care that sov null sec is not etherogeneous like hi sec his, so the combined potential of the facilities has to be carefully calculated. With an hi sec change making NPC slots costing as much as POS slots, then spamming POSes becomes an option. An option too good to pass on in a controlled sov system. Slap a number of those systems all around and you have one alliance out-researching a similar portion of hi sec players.

The one repeating your own, self defeatist mantra here is you.


Do you even understand that my alts had (and still partly have) enough POSes that I only get huge advantages by any possible POS buff and NPC nerf?
And despite that I don't immediately hop in the "I ONLY SEE MY OWN PROFIT FIRST" bandwagon, because I can understand others who are not yet at a certain progress and would be blasted by some of the absurd proposals being written in these threads.

Anyway I am all for making hi sec slots costs = POS costs and to heavily increase null sec slots.

You are raining on the ocean here, sorry.

The only things that I am totally against is when people make choices knowing too well about the drawbacks and then come on the forums: not only to have the drawbacks removed (most are stupid drawbacks indeed) but also to have others be damaged in the process. That reeks of spoiled people who refuse to accept the responsibility of their choices and actually reverse them on somebody else.

All our history is mankind competing over limited resources. If resources were not so limited the need to defend so many of them would not be so needed, Note I said not so limited, not stupidly over abundant.

Of course this would also be less of a problem if Sov Null actually had to use its space as well as defend it in order to upgrade or keep it.

Nor would Empire be dependent on NPC facilities if their was an alternative that while requiring more work provided greater bonuses.

Ok that was fairly reasonable.

I myself am not really doing this for personal profits, I with 1 POS would not benefit greatly as while I gain some isk from manufacturing, I gain most of mine from PI and Mining.

Considering you have mostly covered my proposals of "hi sec slots costs = POS costs and to heavily increase null sec slots."
Well close enough anyway as I would like NPC slightly higher and by slightly I mean 1 or 2%

Th only one you did not cover their was the lowering of NPC facilities to a 30% base rate but that is only slightly more training and an implant to achieve perfect refine. It is definitely not manufacturing/research skills as they could be used on NPC or POS facilities. So not sure if you are meaning me.

I also feel that we should urgently reconsider our choice not to build the 1,361 amarr outposts that it would take to equal hi-sec's production capacity. While it is true that it would cost ~34 trillion ISK to do so, and would still leave us looking at a similarly sized project to match the research capacity hi-sec has, surely that's a small price to pay!