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Thank you. It is precisely people like you that I would dearly love to see enabled to come to 0.0.

Hello I am wondering as to your opinion of this



In relation to a rebalancing of industry via the prioritization of reward=risk*capital expendature

What would you consider to be a fair balanced number of slots for outposts? with the assumption that bot they and NPC stations had an isk sink usage cost, presuming you are not against that idea.

If CCP give me Outpost-focused wishes, what I would like to see is outposts that are defined by being a bonus platform that can be customised with modules - very analogous to fitting a ship.

To use an example, an Amarr outpost should have a unique and unduplicatable manufacturing bonus, something that no NPC station has and no other outpost can get, just as a ship (For example, a Force Recon) has a specific set of bonuses.

The players should then be able to customise the outpost as they like. The model I'd like to see is that outposts have 4 prime characteristics; manufacturing, refining, research and offices. Each outpost should therefore have 10 upgrade slots; 4 primary, 3 secondary, 2 tertiary, 1 quaternary. The Primary slots will always be dedicated to that outpost's bonused function: Amarr outposts can fit 4 manufacturing upgrades, 3 upgrades of whatever the owners decide is that station's secondary function, 2 for what the tertiary function is and 1 for what the quaternary function. Likewise, a Caldari station can fit 4 research upgrades, etc etc. An upgrade would cost 1B for the first in a function, 2B for the second, 3B for the 3rd, 4B for the 4th. So to completely upgrade an outpost with 10 upgrades would cost 10 + 6 + 3 + 1 = 19 billion ISK

As for the precise numbers, obviously that's up to CCP, but a fully upgraded Amarr station should provide at least as many slots as a top-end hi-sec system (400-450). That obviously implies +100 slots per upgrade level.

I haven't gone over the numbers of research slots needed yet, but again the principle of a fully upgraded Caldari outpost being at least as good as the best hi-sec systems should be maintained.

On a side note, I'd be absolutely fine with outpost upgrades being a shootable service and a suitable medium-gang objective to provoke fights.

tbh there's not much in my ~wish~ that should be all that development-intensive. Outpost upgrades already exist, they're just insultingly terrible and eye-wateringly expensive. Increasing the number of upgrades, changing the amount of slots they give and reducing their cost should all be fairly simple. The code for shootable services already exists. The only really new part would be the fitting limitations.

Apparenlty he also thinks that double-taxing novice miners in hisec is good for something... but don't ask him what.

Care to step up to the plate with an elucidation of what you're on about?

Oops. My bad.

That's not "double taxing novice miners", that's single taxing hi-sec miners.

The purpose is to emulate the NPC corp tax, ie: to allow scope for player owned facilities to tax their members while having to compete against free, invulnerable NPC facilities.

You mean taxing all miners in high sec? And in fact margin traders I believe... sounds about right. Hi sec taxes are stupidly low for the benefits people get

Thanks for the reply Malcanis! :)

Aside from outposts, what I personally would like to see is POSses getting a good upgrade.
Get rid of the forcefield, put every thign you anchor now inside the POS as modules, and let people dock up into one.

The biggest benefits of this would be, you'd no longer have the hassle of moving stuff from one bay to another, or corp hangar to manufacturing bay and such, it would allow for setting up a more personal space for a corp member in a POS by allocating part of the general corp bay to personal use. Personal POSses woudl also be possible, giving the power of an individual to setup a manufacturing empire anywhere at the price of using a POS.
Also, it would make leaving BPO's and such at a POS a less risky proposal, as right now, if your POS goes into reinforce when you have stuff in it, you can't take it out until it's repaired ( modules are offline etc. )

As for the docking bay itself, it would be a limited bay, with X m3 hangar bay for ships and Y M3 for other stuff, possibly with additional room implemented by Silo modules for moongoo and such. As a corp pos, part of this could be allocated to individual players so they have their 'own' little space inside the POS to do their thing.

Anyway.. I'm rambling on.. if you want to hear more about my silly ideas on POS revamps, Mail me ;)