EVE General Discussion

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Why it's bad?

Why it's bad to offer for those players you call risk averse, you know those never going to low/null risk their 2bil pimp BS, an alternative?

What are you afraid of? -why would it be bad for you since they already don't go and will never go to low/null because you are incapable of making them go there, you are incapable of interesting them to move there?

You put all the faults on whatever new alternative people ask for to justify your incompetence to get those players going there, and this, is really what you should spend your time working on instead of rabble the same old song from 30's no one else cares about.

Edit: by "your" I mean average null sec claims, not you personally.

Aside from the fact it has happened in every other game to have added it over the last decade.

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Okay so arenas would be okay if done right and within the current mechanics?

1) "Arena limits where you can go" - No it wouldn't, you would be free to come and go as you please the same as you can do in pvp and pve. If you leave the field you would lose the match. An arena is simply a place where small competitive battles can happen where the victor gets some kind of reward.

2) "You can engage anybody at any time" - Not really. You can't engage someone who is docked, in a pos or cloaked but there are other ways you can interact with them. Spectators would be able to bet on games and even suicide gank a contestant if they really wanted to get concorded.

3) "losing ships would not motivate people to partake in combat" - Maybe not but destroying ships and being rewarded would (rewards can come in many form so don't just think isk)

4) "An arena would not train new players" - Yes it would. It would teach them what fits work better than others and what other ships can do. EVE is not just about big fleet fights and contrary to popular opinion, small gang pvp is a big part of eve. People could test out their small gang or solo setups in a 4v4, 1v1 or 5v3 scenario if they wanted to.

5) "They would then refuse to fight in an unfair environment - Maybe but in reality, i think most people in eve like the unbalance of pvp. Arena combat is for the best of the best not people who use 20 people to gank 2 ships... so you would always have people to play with.

I think you misunderstand the propose of a general discussion forum. I'm not here demanding that CCP add arenas, i'm just voicing my opinion to try and point out the positives because so many of you are quick to point out the negatives, and claim that only you know what "the spirit of eve" is.

And then get curbstomped by an iteron V because they have no real world experience, just knolage of fighting the exact same few ships that get used over and over in the arena. Theres a reason why the AT gang setups are not seen in EVE.

Not only this, but you are free to engage members of your own corp anywhere, anytime. Start your own little "arena." Have fun.

Although /thread was already appropriately called, I'm going to quote this because it contains The Truth in clear and concise form and dissolves any uncertainty whether or not Arenas could be part of EVE.

Suggestion rejected. Now undock and go fight someone

Good thing is: You can argue with CCP in the same way and get the same result ;)

@ Colonel Xaven, I guess only time will tell...

But you are probably right as CCP never changed the game from what the old school wanted... Oh wait, mining barge buff


@ Solstice Project, i appreciate that you took the time to think about the issue and posted some valid arguments previously, so i will look forward to what you have to say next. Keep in mind though that most of what i said was theory.