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Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status?

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MystLynx
Lulzsec Space
#61 - 2013-03-07 11:45:27 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status?

just as an example:

-10 unable to activate anything leading into .5 and above
-9 unable to activate anything leading into .6 and above
-8 unable to activate anything leading into .7 and above
-7 unable to activate anything leading into .8 and above
-6 unable to activate anything leading into .9 and above

Dosen't matter what you are in, pod or not, you just can't activate the gate.

Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you.

Or an alternative Concord could let the -10ers jump in then podkill them on sight. I mean really they are supposed to be the worst of the worst.

You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P



NO
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#62 - 2013-03-07 11:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: luZk
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2013-03-07 11:48:04 UTC
luZk wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.


Let's not forget no ORE BPO's anymore either.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#64 - 2013-03-07 11:48:49 UTC
luZk wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.


Also none of the pirate ships.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#65 - 2013-03-07 11:51:45 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
luZk wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.


Let's not forget no ORE BPO's anymore either.


Technically, ORE aren't a pirate faction.

However, sleepers are, so no T3 stuffs, needless to say.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2013-03-07 12:08:43 UTC
Also lets not forget a good chunk of the high end minerals and all of the moon goo products.
Annihilious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-03-07 12:48:37 UTC
great, another stupid idea which is nothing more than another Nerf. Way too many idiotic ideas coming this way...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2013-03-07 12:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Snow Axe wrote:
luZk wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.


Let's not forget no ORE BPO's anymore either.

I'd like to take this moment to express irritation at people (obviously not you) who think ore (as in ore that you mine, not ORE the faction) is also supposed to be capitalized.

"Hey guys is this ship fit good for mining ORE?"
"What kind of ORE is best in highsec?"
"Which barge has the biggest ORE hold?"

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Annihilious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-03-07 12:54:35 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
luZk wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Obviously, no pirate faction, deadspace or officer items would be allowed in hi-sec either.


Also no boosters and no pirate implants or ships.


Let's not forget no ORE BPO's anymore either.

I'd like to take this moment to express irritation at people (obviously not you) who think ore (as in ore that you mine, not ORE the faction) is also supposed to be capitalized.

"Hey guys is this ship fit good for mining ORE?"
"What kind of ORE is best in highsec?"
"Which barge has the biggest ORE hold?"

How do you feel about wh-ORE?
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-03-07 13:10:07 UTC
please, before posting things like this again, use this educational tool...

http://i.imgur.com/NOTa2Pf.png


Also, your idea goes against one of the fundamental tenets CCP has explicity expressed about their game:

"No part of the sandbox should ever be closed to players"

(paraphrasing obviously, but I wish I could find the quote)

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#71 - 2013-03-07 13:28:35 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Andski wrote:
If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to?

They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives.
Scram one some time and wait.
It will warp off no matter how much you scram it.


Try using neuts on one and see how that works out. I'll wait...

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#72 - 2013-03-07 13:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
High Sec and Low Sec jumpgates should "tax" pilots with negative Sec Status, being an amount that factors in both the Sec Status of the system being jumped into and the sec status of the pilot in question. The result being the most expensive "tax' for those with -10 entering 1.0 systems.

Maybe add another factor for the size of ship being piloted, on some sort of incremental scale.

Easy math and Dr. Eyjo said last year that new taxes would be implemented as time goes on -- so this would be dead easy. AND controversial as all Hell since we all know what freebooting capitalist space pilots thinks of taxes. BlinkBlink

Either way, I'm confident that Null Sec gates would never "tax" anyone since "thar ain't no law out h'eaw, boy". P

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-03-07 13:54:51 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Pewty McPew wrote:
noob in his shiny new hulk,


isn't that an oxymoron?

nope. after new skill rebalance you get into shiny hulk in a week, money you get from friends or bought and sold PLEX.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#74 - 2013-03-07 14:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Onomerous
No, there's nothing wrong with the current system. There are consequences for 'going pirate' which is just fine.
Arkane Mystic
POT Corp
#75 - 2013-03-07 15:09:16 UTC
Oh the pirate tears would be epic

Be a pirate suffer the consequences, makes sense.

Why would any empire allow outlaws into their space in the first place?
Although buffing the faction navy might help without the need to totally block them out.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2013-03-07 15:17:15 UTC
Arkane Mystic wrote:
Oh the pirate tears would be epic

Be a pirate suffer the consequences, makes sense.

Why would any empire allow outlaws into their space in the first place?
Although buffing the faction navy might help without the need to totally block them out.


You just got rid of 95% of the market. Good luck selling ships and mods to people who never lose anythingLol
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-03-07 15:23:02 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Yes!

Actions have consequences.

This just in:
Having faction police shoot at you everywhere and being KOS to every single player in highsec doesn't count as a consequence.

It needs consequences that make people EVEN SAFER than they are currently.


Null sec tears are so tasty. There is a never ending supply!

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Turelus
Utassi Security
#78 - 2013-03-07 18:30:20 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
No. Hi sec PVP should stop being nerfed. This isn't Wendy-house-online, right?

I agree but stop confusing ganking as PVP Blink

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2013-03-07 18:35:36 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
Andski wrote:
If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to?

They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives.
Scram one some time and wait.
It will warp off no matter how much you scram it.


Try using neuts on one and see how that works out. I'll wait...

Use a nos. Free cap!

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#80 - 2013-03-07 19:12:37 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status?

just as an example:

-10 unable to activate anything leading into .5 and above
-9 unable to activate anything leading into .6 and above
-8 unable to activate anything leading into .7 and above
-7 unable to activate anything leading into .8 and above
-6 unable to activate anything leading into .9 and above

Dosen't matter what you are in, pod or not, you just can't activate the gate.

Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you.

Or an alternative Concord could let the -10ers jump in then podkill them on sight. I mean really they are supposed to be the worst of the worst.

You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P



As long as you need:

-10 to get into 0.0
-9 to get into 0.1
-8 to get into 0.2
-7 to get into 0.3
and
-6 to get into 0.4

I would be fine with this.