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Looking to explore but don't want to get my butt shot off....

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Gideon Wanders
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-28 05:52:33 UTC
I have been messing around in Gallente space for over a year now and am quite bored seeing the same old thing. I have a small corp that mostly mines and does various science projects as well as planetary interactions. A few of us are looking to venture out beyond high security space and get into null sec. We understand that it is dangerous out there and wonder if it is possible to partner with a larger group for protection. Is this possible to do? Any ideas or pointers?

Thanks.
Holy One
Privat Party
#2 - 2011-10-28 05:57:15 UTC
Sniggwaffe is always happy to help homose-anteans (who value democracy and freedom) take their first tentative steps in to nullsec. Please, friend, feel free to send me an evemail or convo me in game any time you wish to bring your tengu's in to fountain. We can provide maximum strong good protection.

:)

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#3 - 2011-10-28 06:14:11 UTC
or you could talk to agony empire about getting training for null sec.

however null is full of politics. wh space is where it is at.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Myz Toyou
Nekkid Inc.
#4 - 2011-10-28 06:23:01 UTC
Gideon Wanders wrote:
I have been messing around in Gallente space for over a year now and am quite bored seeing the same old thing. I have a small corp that mostly mines and does various science projects as well as planetary interactions. A few of us are looking to venture out beyond high security space and get into null sec. We understand that it is dangerous out there and wonder if it is possible to partner with a larger group for protection. Is this possible to do? Any ideas or pointers?

Thanks.


tl/dr version: While we fill our pockets we want you to hold our hands and fight of the bad people.


Sounds like a scam to me.



Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#5 - 2011-10-28 06:27:39 UTC
*sees the word 'Explore' in topic*

Big smile

*finds that its a carebear wanting to sneak into Nullsec space*

Sad

How may I drug you with drugs?

Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#6 - 2011-10-28 06:28:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Desert Ice78
Yes it is dangerous out there.....lots of bad people, and stuff.

Be prepared to lose your ships and your independence, and your free time.

If you're ok with that, find a corp or alliance that is recruiting (and they are always recruiting.) Your best bet would be to meld your existing corp into another established nul-sec corp (as it will save on the logistics of getting set up in the first place.)

After that, just get involved and you'll do fine....

Edit: Just in case you’re not already aware, if you see ANYTHING that has even the remotest whiff of goon about it, run a mile.

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.

Jita Alt666
#7 - 2011-10-28 06:35:12 UTC
Get a covert ops and fly around. Not hard really.
Gideon Wanders
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-28 13:54:25 UTC
Thanks for the advice and input. It is just a small group of us, about 3, who actually want to venture out and do this. We normally are online during the day EST. Ideally we would love to set up some sort of mining operation and do some exploration. Not really sure if this is even feasible or only a pipe dream.

I am interested in pursuing whatever options would provide the best success for out plans. I have heard that we would need to get some sort of permission if we were to enter sovereign space. Is this true and are there channels to do it? Would we pay to sort of rent out some space, time, or pay an equitable revenue share off our operation?

Just looking for the best way to proceed. I understand it is dangerous out there as well as political and that is one reason I don't just want to jump out there in a covert ops. I feel that could be misread as an act of espionage or some other nefarious thing.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-10-28 14:10:28 UTC
taka look around lowsec first and what that has to offer


to get you started just use frigates as they can get past gatecamps and if you lose them dont worry.


recons are great for that when you are more confident.

take your time.

dont just jump into nullsec

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#10 - 2011-10-28 14:10:47 UTC
It sounds to me as if wormhole exploration would be right up your alley. There's no big commitments involved, or politics....or slavery. Before you sucumb to the nullsec lifestyle, give it a try.
Reislier
#11 - 2011-10-28 15:20:47 UTC
Another aspect of wormhole exploration is as a back door into null sec..
I have popped out in some interesting places.
Cloaks and probes are your friends.

Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.

Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-28 15:26:19 UTC
Ana Vyr wrote:
It sounds to me as if wormhole exploration would be right up your alley. There's no big commitments involved, or politics....or slavery. Before you sucumb to the nullsec lifestyle, give it a try.


rofl, no commitments!?!?! LOL. Yes, you could go in and run sites, no committment, but quite a pain to make isk when you have to go in like that. Most ppl who actually earn isk live there. And that is one HELL of a committment

I has all the eve inactivity

Amro One
One.
#13 - 2011-10-28 15:29:16 UTC
Can some one say War Dec.
Reislier
#14 - 2011-10-28 15:35:26 UTC
Well.. 3 people could do ok.
One in an Orca, with assorted ships in hangar to suit your goals.
Two others could do quite a bit and have some fun.

If the goal is to learn, then it has potential.

Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#15 - 2011-10-28 15:36:39 UTC
find a quiet place and move in
use the maps and get something close to empire, yet off the beaten path and away from any big pipes

theres a lot of regions in null that are not supercap hell storms

but don't be some ***** renter, that will make you a target for the locals.
if you go, you have to expect to fight, and mining and missioning and running back to dock up when someone enters local will not earn you the respect of your neighbors.

do a little diplo when you find a nice spot, get some local blues, you can still do your money making, but if you don't get into the PVP also it will just be an expensive bout of station games and hotdrops
Caulk H0lster
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
#16 - 2011-10-28 15:45:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Caulk H0lster
As a pilot, getting started in nullsec isn't usually a problem. It's easy to find corps who will accept people new to PvP and help train them up.

Breaking into 0.0 as a whole corp is a whole other ball of wax.

I used to be the CEO of a rather promising PvP corp that had been in Faction War and screwing around in lowsec for about a year. We had a good number of veteran players who had been in 0.0 corps before, we had a good group of newer players who are/were talented PvPers who were interested in moving the corp to nullsec, so we made that our goal, to move to nullsec and establish ourselves. To accomplish that goal though, many compromises were made along the way, and after the corp joined a number of HORRIBLE alliances, after well over a year of tremendous effort from many of the directorate (and after I left), the corp now finds itself in a reasonably good alliance, and able to stand proudly among them on the achievements they've made since coming to nullsec.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that even if you have a really good corp with veteran players and talented younger members, be prepared for a very long ordeal. If you're just thinking of jaunting out to nullsec with a corp full of inexperienced PvPers though, you might want to re-examine what you're doing and start a bit smaller, in like lowsec or faction war, until you get some much needed experience. Or you could just try to network with some spacebros and try to get into a crappy nullsec carebear alliance, sometimes their corp recruiting standards are fairly lax.