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Multiboxingsoftware... Y ?

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#81 - 2013-03-06 19:03:51 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
People using clients to use multiple instances of Eve to do the exactly the same thing are no harm. In fact, they gain no benefit from it at all.

If you can use 1 character to get 10m per hour mining, then you can use 10 to get 100m per hour. So obviously they're earning more right? Wrong. That's still just 10m per character. Each character requires a ship, clone upgrades, a sub cost, ammo for ships, skillbooks, ships etc, etc. No matter how many accounts you use it will never help you pay for plex or give you any advantage over someone using a single account. You sure as hell can't use it to PvP. I've heard of people trying. They die in a fire.

If they're willing to pay CCP for 10 accounts then more fool them. It's their own stupidity. But CCP get an income out of it and no one else is hurt, so stop complaining. Over all the multi-boxers have a beneficial effect on Eve because they are paying CCP more money. Money that is re-invested into our expansions.

Razefummel wrote:

The 1st one is NOT... the other 19 ARE automated by Software. No Software and the Chars all together will do nothing just like as you would remove bottingsoftware. Same thing. Software used to move Characters. Its as simple as THAT.


By that logic one person using one ship is having their character automated. Your not moving the ship, the driver software for your mouse is converting it into information that the Eve client can use. Without that software, you can't even move one ship. So, we should ban mouse drivers... Might as well get rid of mouses whilst we're at it...


The mouse is hardware, it can stay. But yes, the drivers will have to go so no more keybinding.

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Razefummel
Unknown Dimension
#82 - 2013-03-06 19:26:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Razefummel wrote:
Thats ridiculous.
No it's not.

If you insist that “automation” has nothing to do with actual automation and with the control being reliant on some piece of software, then mouse drivers most certainly qualify. They offer the exact same kind of “automation” as input broadcasting does (and on a rather similar level of the OS).

…which only shows that your incorrect definition of automation is, well, incorrect.
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So what so many of you is trying to explain me that the Software does the same thing like THIS.

It dosn´t do anything with out an Human Input... and its NO way of automatation...

Good Point... realy.

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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#83 - 2013-03-06 19:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
When you are losing an internet argument, the two best things you can do are 1) try to get everyone arguing over the dictionary, and 2) introduce an analogy that is subject to endless interpretations and reinterpretations.

Please don't stop, I've been following this since last night. I'd especially like to hear from that Arduemont guy who said that multiboxing software is no quicker than manually clicking in each UI. Another analogy would be pretty sweet too.

Although I'm cool with just arguing over whether the use of a mouse constitutes botting too.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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#84 - 2013-03-06 19:53:21 UTC
I really don't think we need another thread to make people who don't understand the fundamental differences between bots and multibox software look foolish, the existing threadnaught is doing that remarkably well.

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#85 - 2013-03-06 20:15:18 UTC
I really can't understand how you're failing to grasp this. One has a human at the controls, clicking buttons. The other doesn't. It's as simple as that! Most of your arguements are semantics. It doesn't matter if the human's single click multiplies to 20, or 100, or a million. As long as its an actual human doing the clicking, then its fine. If its an automated program, then its not.

Take your example, someone ringing a bell, and it ringing 20 others. But, if no-one rings the bell, nothing happens! Without a human at the controls, the 20man mining fleet you refer to just sits there. With an automated program, the human is down the pub enjoying a ice cold beer, while the 20 mining ships mine and transfer minerals without any human imput, 24/7.

Seriously, if you can't grasp this clear difference, then i'm not sure what more can be said. It's clear you don't agree with multibox programs, but CCP does.

I suggest you express your opinion in the most purest EvE form, by finding and ganking as many multiboxers you can find! Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Razefummel
Unknown Dimension
#86 - 2013-03-06 20:32:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Razefummel
Ranger 1 wrote:
I really don't think we need another thread to make people who don't understand the fundamental differences between bots and multibox software look foolish, the existing threadnaught is doing that remarkably well.


There ARE differenced between bots and multiboxing via Software.
We had em listed here many times.

BUT, the Point is that it SHOULD be generaly permitted to use a Software wich is controling any other Characters on the PC. Bots do that, and ISboxer does it as well.

And most of the posters here just try to explain that its ok to do so just because there is one Player is actual "plays" 1 Character of his little horde. Sadly they don´t want to understand that Software wich is used to controlling an Character, and is not even an essential part of the System, shouldn´t be used in Eve and should be removed of it.

Its not even the point of "HOW" the Software does it... the Point is "it does control other Characters".
Now you can lie down on the Ground and struggle with Arms and Legs, but it won´t be Changing the Fact that Software controls Characters and it realy dosn´t matter HOW it does.

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#87 - 2013-03-06 20:39:18 UTC
Hi,

Sorry for arriving late, but here is already a large thread about this topic:

over here

No need to create duplicates, thanks!

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