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Why not to have T3 battlecruisers

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Evil piemaker
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-03-06 12:00:43 UTC
It would **** up intel channels and AARs even more than they are ****** up already.
"T3 BC fleet entering X, 60 in local" is understandable today because there are not Tech 3 BCs, only Tier 3 BCs.
So with T3 BCs actually in game, it would be a complete mess and everyone would always take the wrong fleet to meet T3 BCs, expecting glass cannons (Tier 3) when they'd face the Tech 3 variety.

And the answer to your question might be "Yes".
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-06 12:03:33 UTC
CCP probably intended there to be Tech 3 frigates and battleships.

Not sure if the Tech 3 program has been cancelled entirely or has just been put on hold.

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Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#3 - 2013-03-06 12:05:36 UTC
Evil piemaker wrote:
It would **** up intel channels and AARs even more than they are ****** up already.
"T3 BC fleet entering X, 60 in local" is understandable today because there are not Tech 3 BCs, only Tier 3 BCs.
So with T3 BCs actually in game, it would be a complete mess and everyone would always take the wrong fleet to meet T3 BCs, expecting glass cannons (Tier 3) when they'd face the Tech 3 variety.

And the answer to your question might be "Yes".


T3 BCR fleet entering X

There, job done.

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Chiana Moro
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#4 - 2013-03-06 12:12:19 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
Evil piemaker wrote:
It would **** up intel channels and AARs even more than they are ****** up already.
"T3 BC fleet entering X, 60 in local" is understandable today because there are not Tech 3 BCs, only Tier 3 BCs.
So with T3 BCs actually in game, it would be a complete mess and everyone would always take the wrong fleet to meet T3 BCs, expecting glass cannons (Tier 3) when they'd face the Tech 3 variety.

And the answer to your question might be "Yes".


T3 BCR fleet entering X

There, job done.


It is? What the f is BCR and is it Tier or Tech?
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-06 12:16:01 UTC
Chiana Moro wrote:
Domina Trix wrote:
Evil piemaker wrote:
It would **** up intel channels and AARs even more than they are ****** up already.
"T3 BC fleet entering X, 60 in local" is understandable today because there are not Tech 3 BCs, only Tier 3 BCs.
So with T3 BCs actually in game, it would be a complete mess and everyone would always take the wrong fleet to meet T3 BCs, expecting glass cannons (Tier 3) when they'd face the Tech 3 variety.

And the answer to your question might be "Yes".


T3 BCR fleet entering X

There, job done.


It is? What the f is BCR and is it Tier or Tech?

Surely you know what a Bumper car Ride is.

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Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#6 - 2013-03-06 12:17:55 UTC
Chiana Moro wrote:
Domina Trix wrote:
Evil piemaker wrote:
It would **** up intel channels and AARs even more than they are ****** up already.
"T3 BC fleet entering X, 60 in local" is understandable today because there are not Tech 3 BCs, only Tier 3 BCs.
So with T3 BCs actually in game, it would be a complete mess and everyone would always take the wrong fleet to meet T3 BCs, expecting glass cannons (Tier 3) when they'd face the Tech 3 variety.

And the answer to your question might be "Yes".


T3 BCR fleet entering X

There, job done.


It is? What the f is BCR and is it Tier or Tech?


ok for the slower thinking:

Tr3 BCR

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#7 - 2013-03-06 12:19:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Liafcipe9000
because Falcon is good enough. also, gief T3 Frigs.
(FYI: T3 = Tech 3, t3 = tier 3)
Azitek
Serenity Labs
#8 - 2013-03-06 12:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Azitek
So your argument for tech 3 BCs is not that they would encourage pvp, or fill some certain niche, or shake up the meta, or encourage industry...

It's that they'd make intell channels more confusing for a few days?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2013-03-06 12:38:06 UTC
Look at what a T3 cruiser can do compared to a T1 cruiser. Now scale that up equally with battleships. Horrifying.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-03-06 12:44:43 UTC
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.
stoicfaux
#11 - 2013-03-06 13:03:30 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Look at what a T3 cruiser can do compared to a T1 cruiser. Now scale that up equally with battleships. Horrifying.

Well the four main factions need some kind of battleship that can compete with the "privately developed by pirates" Machariel, Nightmare and Vindicator.


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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#12 - 2013-03-06 13:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Nurgle
This idea is truely Xenuria Class.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2013-03-06 13:58:15 UTC
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-03-06 14:19:56 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Look at what a T3 cruiser can do compared to a T1 cruiser. Now scale that up equally with battleships. Horrifying.

Well the four main factions need some kind of battleship that can compete with the "privately developed by pirates" Machariel, Nightmare and Vindicator.





No, not really. For what those cost you can buy 3 faction BS's and take each of those down assuming you have friends.

Don't ban me, bro!
stoicfaux
#15 - 2013-03-06 14:27:22 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Look at what a T3 cruiser can do compared to a T1 cruiser. Now scale that up equally with battleships. Horrifying.

Well the four main factions need some kind of battleship that can compete with the "privately developed by pirates" Machariel, Nightmare and Vindicator.





No, not really. For what those cost you can buy 3 faction BS's and take each of those down assuming you have friends.


Have you seen the price of friends lately!?!

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2013-03-06 15:00:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

Have faith in the Fozzie. Smile

I predict there will be a lot of upset Tech 3 Cruiser pilots in the near future.

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Callic Veratar
#17 - 2013-03-06 15:07:30 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

Have faith in the Fozzie. Smile

I predict there will be a lot of upset Tech 3 Cruiser pilots in the near future.


Based on what has been said, there may be rage amongst the Tech 2 pilots as well.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-03-06 15:15:29 UTC
Current T3 cruisers are fine, when you add all poor mechanics like OGB they become really annoying but nothing to do with the hull it self. These don't stack pretty well, specially after missile much needed nerf even Tengu became less "stack interesting"

T3 frigates would definitively ruin the entire game, please never ever implement these. T2 frigates currently (before next balance) ARE already deadly and op when stack in numbers.

Battlecruisers are horribly OP when stack in numbers, T2 BC's are excellent in solo, these are already omnipresent in every possible encounter, no need of T3 BC's. These are just like frigates, already OP when stack in numbers, no need for more.

Battleships? -hell yes !!
This ship class is under represented in all combat scenarios, has huge weaknesses for little improvement over BC's unless you want to spend time explaining your life on mumble/TS while shooting structures.
T2 Battleship classes are underused, far too expensive and skill training intensive for little interest. So imho this is the only class under capital size that should get a huge love kiss and get a T3 component or more option hull for multiple uses.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-03-06 15:24:18 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The cruisers are disgustingly overpowered. The idea of the tech 3 BC or BS horrifies me.

Have faith in the Fozzie. Smile

I predict there will be a lot of upset Tech 3 Cruiser pilots in the near future.




This would be a very bad move.

Bring OGB on grid only, then let's see how OP these T3's are.

Crap, that's the problem, guys don't want to loose OGB tràlàlà...

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Evil piemaker
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-03-06 15:57:55 UTC
Apparently a moderately successful troll.

Still, T3 BCs would risk to be OP imho. Unless you give some niche role.
I'm not in to much of BS and larger ships, but from the reactions here I guess marauders are luckless against pirate faction BS?
(Hence the wish for T3 BS)
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