Missions & Complexes

Hey all,

I've recently reactivated my account after 4y of it gathering dust. I used to be heavy in to PvP but I've sold off most of my PvP characters and kept only this one. While I still like PvP, I don't have the time anymore to join a big corp and play every night. So I thought I'd give missions a go.

Looking over the changes and skills and so, I see there's been a ton of changes since I've last played. I would like to ask your advice on mission running setups.

I have about 40mill skillpoints, and I have got both armor and shield taking skills sorted. I see there's a lot of 'rigging' etc. skills in the list now, are those worth training up? Additionally, my spaceship command is focused on Gallante and Amarr. I have everything, up to and including Command ships in there. My gunnery skills go up to T2 heavy Rails and Beams. I have no missile skills.

Back in the day a CNR would have been perfect for missions, although looking around here a lot of people suggest a Mach instead.

So my question is, should I start training up Caldari, or Minmatar spaceships skills, and should I start training up Missile, or Projectile weapons and which ships / setups would you suggest with the skills I have right now.

Thanks for reading.

dominix is fine for missioning - you may want to check your sentry drone skills but it sounds like you have most of what you need for that. mach you may find more mobile/fun, so for sure its worth training for.

You'll want the rig skills immediately - at least crack open armor, shield, preferred weapons and the fit rigs (capacitor control, grid and cpu).

Missions haven't advanced a lot since you left. there are some new ones, and the ai got updated recently. exploration, wormholes and incursions are where PVE improved/advanced/changed.

If you just came back might I suggest you DON"T SPEND THE SP YET. Wait until you play a bit and you will know where you need them.

It's also far behind boats like navy geddon if you have sentry skills (1.1k dps at Scorch range). The navy geddon cost 70 mil higher than an Abaddon. Definitely not the best non-pirate faction BS, just good for low SP chars.

Hey all, after looking around a bit, I managed to work out the following fit for a Navy issue Dominix. The plan is to pretty much just cruise through all lvl 4 missions without much hassle. This should maximize both DPS and survivability. Let me know what you think.

Drone Link Augmentor II
425mm Railgun II (javelin)
425mm Railgun II (javelin)
425mm Railgun II (javelin)
425mm Railgun II (javelin)
425mm Railgun II (javelin)

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II

Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Bouncer I x5

Now some information. I mainly run missions against the Serpentis faction, so I loaded resists for those damage types (Ht/Kin). The current set up has 138K EHP, and repairs 778.4 HP/s. The tank could be made slightly better by fitting T2 rigs, but dear god, those things are expensive (just for the sake of being complete ... 813.1 HP/s for T2 rigs).

Since I can't use T2 sentries yet; I had to use T1s. Total damage done is 737 per sec. (377 from weaps, and 361 from drones). With T2 sentries though, the drone damage jumps up to 433, putting the total dps on 810. The highest possible damage out of this is when you use Ogre IIs, as that will pump up the damage to 852 dps (T2 sentries with T2 rig will do 829 DPS).

The only downside though is that with my current skills, the cap will run out in just a little under 2 hours. Then again, I don't really plan on spending that much on a single mission stage. Should there be energy drains, I would have to turn of a single railgun to make the cap go stable at 35-40%.

The total cost for this setup should be a little over 400 mill.

Just a little edit. I made a shield fit too. 92.7K EHP with 533.4 HP/s recharge. 977 DPS, with the cap stable at 29.9%.

The plain domi I use for serp is

[high]
5x 350mm railgun II
1x drone link aug II

[mid]
2x omnidirectional tracking link II
1x sensor booster II
1x tracking computer II (change for another sebo if doing blockade).
1x medium electrochemical capacitor booster 1 (cap 800)

[low]
2x kinetic hardener II
2x thermic hardener II
1x large armor repairer II
2x Drone damage amplifier II

[rigs]
1x large hybrid burst aerator
1x large hybrid collision accelerator

[drones]
5x garde II
5x warden II
5x hobgob II

As a quickie I would take your fit and make the following changes.

run the navy domi with 3 cap rechargers, 1 tracking comp (or web), 2 omni's in the mids.

1 capacitor control circuit rig, keep the 2 rep rigs, drop the hybrid rig. Drop the damage control and put 2 DDAs instead of the 1 magstab.

I'd delay starting my rep till shields were shot, I'd shoot frigates first with gardes if I can to avoid having to bay drones or use lights (and thus never get scrammed if possible), and I'd pulse the rep if the cap was getting low - or the rep was repping 100% of the damage away. If you have cash, you could also pick up 3% or 5% rep amount and cap recharge implants.

Its actually very tricky to get the MJD setup to outperform my basic domi fit (if judged by the stopwatch), and very expensive - because to make them actually do anything useful, they need 3 fed omnis to try make the MJD geometry such that you fight at 55-65), If you try setup to fight 85-105, its dps isn't better against serps.

You can halve the penalty for not having an AB on my fit by bringing hammers (it has the space), and running and gunning the last few ships during the traverse to a long gate. You can avoid the 3 minute cooldown on the MJD by jumping to the gate with 3 minutes worth of pocket left - thats apparently another trap many people fall into using the MJD.

I took on your advice and ended up with the following fit. Sentry drones are a bit of a new thing to me, so thanks for your information on how to make sentries work! :)

I've changed to this:

Drone Link Augmentor II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Tracking Computer II

Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Garde I x5
Warden I x5
Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5

I took the different drones, as you make a very valid point on those. I've decided to put in the CPR as with that and my current implants I can run the setup indefinitely without having to change rigs. Although, should I see that there's really no problem at all, I'll swap it out for an extra DDA. I also changed the regular drones to Caldari drones, as they should be slightly better against Serpentis NPCs.

The only thing I've noticed with this, is that the damage is only slightly better than my previous Astarte setup (about 50/75 DPS). The HP/s repaired is about 100 higher, and the EHP is twice as high. That said though, as my drone skills get better, the damage should go up a fair bit still. :)

If you still have suggestions, feel free!

I've had wrecking hits from my sentries that did over 1000 damage and I dont even have tech 2 sentries (sentry drone 3 lol) and drone interfacing IV.

Currently salivating at the thought of what happens in 40 days time when i get tech 2 sentries and drone interfacing V

oh also in a myrmidon with BC V so that helps a bit