EVE General Discussion

You can talk to people, without being in corp with them. Heck, you can fleet with them, get bonuses from them, research BPOs for them, do mining ops with them, run missions with them, on and on and on... without being in corp with them.

So ironically, Eve corporations are a liability for doing business in Eve.

There are plenty of people who were once ignorant who are now subbing and having a great time because they have seen the light, and moved out of the mindless grind for the sake of grinding phase of their careers. Most of these players have mains in ship combat corps, and grind the isk they need in highsec.

Most new players don't know what they're missing out on. When everyone lives in their own little bubble because it's the smart thing to do, it breeds new players who are ignorant of the game's fun features, and those who aren't interested in playing like this quit. And plenty of them do!


What is more likely:

1) People are exploiting game mechanics in order to make the most amount of isk in the least amount of time possible.

2) People who started playing EVE Online which has become popular because of all of the epic stories about scamming, piracy and war are just playing because it's "relaxing" and they get to "play the game they want to play it".

I have over thirteen thousand friends, all with different playing backgrounds coming from different walks of life. How many do you have?

CCP are a funny lot. They create a game where they foster behavior that would get you an ASBO in the UK but you can't say "I'm taking the ****" on the forums, using a colloquial word for urine. Like we are naughty children or something... But then encouraging these 'children' to be little psychos? Wierd.

It's funny how carebears view themselves as the majority when they really are not.

That's just your NULLSEC ZEALOR opinion. And wrong.

Highsec carebears are THE MAJORITY and will UNSUB if you hurt them.

Posting in a "Mittani.com articles are CCP facts" thread.

8 pages of uselessness because OP can't read the CSM meeting notes. Back to fox news, with you.

well, if you strip it down, it is currently trivial to avoid/play around war-dec,
so you get "war" in war dec only in two cases:
- you wardec someone who is clueless about game mechanics
- you wardec someone who expects something totally different from reality (fair fights for example)
- wardec is 'consensual'
and as others have pointed, you cannot force someone to fight in EVE, hell... you cannot force
someone to fight IRL either.
Of course, that doesn't mean war-decs should go away, but something should be done to encourage more
'war' in wardecs rather then station games, neutral rr alts and other 'pvp' that is prevalent today.

I don't really see how to do that, but few ideas off the hook (not sure about viability, but...)
- a) flat-out prevent docking games, example: you cannot dock while getting shot (no matter if you shoot back or not), or.. something horrible happens if you neutral rr someone... or somone engaged in war... rr neutral alts are imo everything except 'good fight'

create strategic objectives in high sec: best done by making high-sec stations / corps inoptimal for industry (and everything else) - ex: everything (well, not really everything) in high-sec station is taxed X% by concord:
- b) make POS unanchor take more then 24 hours: consequence: your POS can be blown up in case of war-dec; might sound harsh, but at least makes you think about deploying one in high-sec and might create proper targets in wars
- as part of it, make POSes and POS warfare in high-sec more appealing, examples: reduce manufacturing slots in high-sec / drastically increase manufactoring taxes... (to push more production toward POSes, therefore making them more 'needed', but still optional to drive corp-warfare toward high sec POSes, make POS based production better...
- c) bit more creative: allow corps to build / anchor corp offices in high-sec; make they very beneficial but not 'must have', ex: you suffer X% tax from CONCORD if you don't have/use one, these can act as system (corp?) wide buffs such as +X% income from missions, +X% mining amount... basically stuff that people will like; of course this thing costs (a lot?) and can be blown up
- d) push POCOs as strategic objectives: something like: you can anchor your one, it is better then CONCORD one

Soundwave suggested this as a possibility in the last Fanfest. Tis not a bad idea.
Corp owned mining rights could be interesting too.

All are data points, to discount a data point out of hand is not intelligent to decision making or opinion forming. The CSM doesn't dictate CCP actions, nor do minutes from a CSM meeting lock-in or constrain future CCP actions.

To assume 'CSM minutes' are the almighty bible to future CCP actions is naive at best, stupid at worst; past actions are the best predictor of future actions.

We have seen CCP marching merrily towards the road to nerfdom as mentioned numerous times already with safeties, removal of can flipping, ganking nerfs like reduced insurance payouts, Hulks buffed after hulkageddon, technetium nerf, warp-stabbed Venture, etc -- so to those who aren't looking through fanboy goggles the trend is whats important...

"The wardec changes, of course, were designed with the intention of making wars less common so carebears could mine more safely in highsec. The base cost for wars against corporations was increased from 2 million to 50 million, and wars against alliances had increased costs based on the number of people in the alliance. (They said this was because wardecs against large alliances offered more targets, but the reasoning was never really worked out.)...

In addition, carebears victimized by a wardec were given the ability to call in infinite allies for free. "

So when I hear about CCP thinking about further nerfing war-deccing or studying the idea of removing non-mutual war-decs I take it seriously based on their previous actions mentioned.

CCP can clear this up in a heartbeat by simply saying 'NO, we would never make wars mutual only'.