EVE General Discussion

^^^Quoting this incredible idiocy for posterity, before it can hit the "EDIT" button^^^

My God, it really exists:

The animate pastiche of lowest-common-Internet-denominators given form...Oh, the horror!

Seriously, what are you, 14?

Pfft,

the thing that makes all this funny is that it is all part of the plan.

goons are doing exactley what they are supposed to be doing.

I think Istvan Shogatsu said it best:

"The most effective pawn is one who does not realise they are standing on a chess board"

Keeps playing goons, keep playing - I'll get the pop corn ready.

AK

Well worded. I don't know if I agree with it but, only because it is assuming something that we cannot know...Mittani & CCP's motivations. However, your blog does seems to imply that fundamentally changing the "sandbox" to exclude non-consensual PVP as a bad thing for the game. Honestly, I see it as a positive move for the future of the game. There are more successful MMO's out there that cultivate a certain portion of their playerbase as carebears. The more successful MMO's that do this certainly outnumber the MMO's that don't.

I live in w-space and have been there for 2 years now. You can't exactly say that I have any self-serving motivation to want hi-sec a non-pvp zone. I do recognize that there are a large number of people that enjoy aspects of the game which don't include PVP at all. I also recognize that a large portion of the population of Eve reside in hisec. One must as "Why?". From what I know of the people I've run into in Eve, the carebears, many of them are casual players. They're casual in that they only have an hour or two here or there to play the game, not casual as in "My POS was attack so I called into work said I was sick and spent the next 16 hours fending off the aggressors". I delineate "casual" here because there is a wide difference in perception of what exactly is "casual" play. We'll just call it all casual and try not to mince the words with semantic arguments. So, we have two types of casual players. Those with limited time and those willing to do whatever it takes. The former needs a safe environment to foster their activities since one can't just place a real time +10 hour fight on hold while the latter doesn't since they're willing to do whatever it takes to meet any challenges thrown at them at any time.

Given these two types of play styles in the game I would argue that there are a far larger number of players with limited amounts of time than those able to dump heaps of time on the game. This is a good dichotomy for the game because it means that there is a positive pressure of an over abundance of players in hisec with a negative pressure from a lack of players in nullsec and more dangerous areas of space. This, of course, eventually leads to players venturing out to the more dangerous areas given a certain amount of time in which to gain one's Eve legs. Unfortunately, few people these days want to go to nullsec. Instead, many are venturing into w-space as seen by its population explosion in the last year.

A year ago you could go days and weeks without seeing a soul in your hole (no jokes please). Now, you can't go 24 hours. So why the explosion in population? IDK. Maybe it's the insane RL financial and time requirements of having empires in null? Maybe it's the epeen? Maybe it's people like Mittani there who expect one's blind obedience? Maybe it's the RMT in the guise of a game? I just don't know. I do know that these are some of the reasons I don't go there.

When I do venture into nullsec, this is what I see....not much. For every 5 empty systems I might see 1 with a couple of people traversing another. For every 20 empty systems I might see 1 with a population above 5. IDK. Seems like null might be suffering from a lack of people. I've heard nullsec'ers complain about that very fact. If it's true then one must ask "Why?". Perhaps its for reasons I've already outlined. Whatever the reason, perhaps what we need to recognize is the possible changing of the face of Eve from being null-centric with huge lagging fleet battles with trillions of isk/tens of thousands of RL dollars at risk, to something more manageable for the masses. And maybe, that's why Mittani is having his tantrum? Maybe ganking defenseless ice miners is his way of saying "NOTICE US......please....we're really bored out here, someone come play with US".

I can't speak for nullsec, but I'm having a blast in w-space. And if hi-sec does go non-pvp, good. Hopefully, that'll mean more people in the game which will automatically translate to more people curious about the more dangerous areas of space.

However, Montolio - always one step ahead - has already dispatched his most capable sky marshall to deflect the goon threat and become the hero that high sec deserves.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23698

Hey what is going in this thread?

AWWWWWWWWWW ****

^This.

This week is completely ******... first I'm agreeing with TEST guys, then a Goon, now Mr. Kidd...

6/10

I like a good conspiracy theory troll as much as anybody but they need to be realistic you are giving him way too much credit. It's been revealed time and time again that he really ain't this smart.

The reality of the current situation, is the Goons are just too scared to go up against the DRF.

What scares me most is that CCP listen to Mittens....
Nerfing supers... and now probably bufing security in highsec.
CCP... you scare me

No making sense.

This is a tinfoil hat zone.

I think the OP suffers from the assumption that "being a ****" means "having a big ****" to swing around.

Mittani's antics are an amusing fad. No reason to take them so seriously.