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How do players who join the all blue null sec make isk?
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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#41 - 2013-03-05 12:07:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Nurgle
Tialano Utrigas wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother.


Because it's fun.

Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.

The blue donut is best described like this.

The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful.



Actually, we were planning on batphoning Ushra'Khan when CVA wanted to push us is.

(Do the Ushra'Khan boys still exist? Oh well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UESGri5fal8)
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-03-05 12:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cebraio
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
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also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.


Finding this information out can be a bit hard, if you have no clue about the entities yet. Because EVE is like it is, we can only formalize Alliances. So you need to know which alliance is blue to which other alliances and thus forming a Coalition.

You find infos about alliance numbers here:
http://evewho.com/

Or here:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances

And you can check alliance standings here:
http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.php

Being blue to many other people doesn't mean there are no fights. Quite the contrary. We fight on a daily basis. Members that are staying in presumably safe areas (0.0 carebears) are being hunted down by small roaming gangs or hot drops. Also, not many people in 0.0 welcome new members that are only joining to get rich in a safe environment. You're usually required to join fleets and fight for your place. But you should try it. It's definitely more fun than Hi-Sec.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2013-03-05 14:06:09 UTC
I used http://raynor.cl/eve/coalition.php for this.
Not entirely sure how accurate it is.
Also apparently we're supposed to stop using the dscan tool since the site is run by some dude in TEST. Not sure what advantage he'd gain from knowing our enemy's fleet comps, however.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-03-05 14:08:42 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I used http://raynor.cl/eve/coalition.php for this.
Not entirely sure how accurate it is.

Ah right, I had forgotten where I saw these nice pi-charts. They should be donut shaped, though.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-03-05 14:11:10 UTC
This thread is now a 4S circlejerk.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-03-05 14:14:24 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
This thread is now a 4S circlejerk.

True. This is Dingo btw: http://evewho.com/pilot/DingoGS
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2013-03-05 14:15:56 UTC
Yep, I looked him up after I saw the ping.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#48 - 2013-03-05 17:06:02 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Vincent Gaines wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Just FYI, the CFC and HBC are at negative standings.

There are large coalitions, but no mega-coalition.

pitched battles and wargames n stuff.



"Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..."

"oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!"

We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real.



Yes, that's the reason.....Roll

Are you really this naive? Or is the PR boat sinking?


Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Thermalize Schereau
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-03-05 17:07:52 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
...
also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.


Finding this information out can be a bit hard, if you have no clue about the entities yet. Because EVE is like it is, we can only formalize Alliances. So you need to know which alliance is blue to which other alliances and thus forming a Coalition.

You find infos about alliance numbers here:
http://evewho.com/

Or here:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances

And you can check alliance standings here:
http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.php

Being blue to many other people doesn't mean there are no fights. Quite the contrary. We fight on a daily basis. Members that are staying in presumably safe areas (0.0 carebears) are being hunted down by small roaming gangs or hot drops. Also, not many people in 0.0 welcome new members that are only joining to get rich in a safe environment. You're usually required to join fleets and fight for your place. But you should try it. It's definitely more fun than Hi-Sec.


thanks for that info!
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-03-05 17:29:06 UTC
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.


AFK Mining in High Sec
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-03-05 17:30:57 UTC
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.



Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#52 - 2013-03-05 17:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Akirei Scytale wrote:
"Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..."

"oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!"

We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real.

I hear European Goonion and Space Violence are leaving because they ate all the easy ratter and miner kills.

Keep playing dead, eventually we'll give up. Make afk camping your ratting/mining systems as boring as shooting structures and less rewarded.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#53 - 2013-03-05 17:32:37 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can.

Monty is running out of isk. It isn't good, he might have to go to his spacesugardaddy to get more.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-03-05 17:38:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can.

Monty is running out of isk. It isn't good, he might have to go to his spacesugardaddy to get more.



Hmm, I was worried something like this might happen if I left nullsec, maybe I should go back and stabilize the situation again.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-03-05 18:35:35 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:

Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas.


I kinda wish more people recognised this when discussing null vs high.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#56 - 2013-03-05 20:31:28 UTC
Takseen wrote:
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:

Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas.

I kinda wish more people recognised this when discussing null vs high.

Nerf players.

You see, when players don't take care of themselves, you get CONCORD and NPC corps. See how much better it is if you rely on CCP to take care of you via game mechanics and NPCs?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-03-05 22:17:59 UTC
Mostly they dump alts into WHs and farm isk.

There is no Bob.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-03-06 03:51:18 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Mostly they dump alts into WHs and farm isk.

Hahaha, that's cute.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kane Alvo
Doomheim
#59 - 2013-03-06 04:26:33 UTC
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
...I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK?


Make ISK with hisec alts.
Spend far more time in hisec.
Post on forums with "main" claiming to be a nullseccer, and that hisec needs to be nerfed.
Profit.

Caldari Militia  ☜★☞ Psychotic Monk for CSM8

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#60 - 2013-03-06 05:47:10 UTC
Kane Alvo wrote:
Thermalize Schereau wrote:
...I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK?

Make ISK with hisec alts.
Spend far more time in hisec.
Post on forums with "main" claiming to be a nullseccer, and that hisec needs to be nerfed.
Profit.

How do they profit, actually...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?