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Ginger Barbarella
#81 - 2013-03-05 16:23:00 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
"..CCP and the CSM have been feverishly discussing the total elimination of non-consensual wardecs, too."

WTF?

Now I'm not one to normally say "If 'x' happens I will resign my subscription", but if this asshattery happens I will.

I put about $400-500 annually into the EVE universe (above subscriptions) because I can't be bothered humping asteroids or day trading to fund my pvp. CCP needs to ask itself, do you want to lose players like me on your road to nerfdom?

(I almost quit when can-flipping and ganking got nerfed, doing this is without a doubt the last straw for me...)

p.s.
Yes, if this happens, someone can have my stuff.

F



Jesus. The blind leading the stupid. Awesome.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#82 - 2013-03-05 16:26:21 UTC
luZk wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Athena Maldoran wrote:
I think removing wardecks is a good thing, but only if you found solutions for removing structures and such in highsec.

1) Keep war decs, but only allow them for corps that have a structure.
2) War dec the structure. If you do not actually aggrerss the structure, the war is canceled.
3) Economic warfare. The structure rental slot goes to the highest bidder.

God I hope you're just trolling.........Ugh

He better be, anything like this would go BEYOND just shooting some statue.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2013-03-05 16:33:10 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Athena Maldoran wrote:
I think removing wardecks is a good thing, but only if you found solutions for removing structures and such in highsec.

1) Keep war decs, but only allow them for corps that have a structure.
2) War dec the structure. If you do not actually aggrerss the structure, the war is canceled.
3) Economic warfare. The structure rental slot goes to the highest bidder.


Minecraft is that way ------------->
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2013-03-05 16:47:54 UTC
Get wardecced.
Don't undock for a week.
If the war continues to a second week, drop to NPC corp.
When the war ends, rejoin my player corp.


How is this fun for anyone?
anthie
Stars in No Sky
Backward Time in a Strange Land
#85 - 2013-03-05 16:48:52 UTC  |  Edited by: anthie
Vincent Athena wrote:
Athena Maldoran wrote:
I think removing wardecks is a good thing, but only if you found solutions for removing structures and such in highsec.

1) Keep war decs, but only allow them for corps that have a structure.
2) War dec the structure. If you do not actually aggrerss the structure, the war is canceled.
3) Economic warfare. The structure rental slot goes to the highest bidder.



Oh dear god, please do unsub and leave the game, you and other carebears like the fail f.... king of nakugard Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha should take hands and go play Second Life or Hello Kitty Online, better yet, World of Warcraft.

There you can sit in your safe zones without a worry in life that someone will come to hurt you, this is Eve, a Open world pvp game where no one is ever safe anywhere

What your suggesting would kill Eve hard, merc corps / alliance would cease to exist....
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#86 - 2013-03-05 16:52:07 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Get wardecced.
Don't undock for a week.
If the war continues to a second week, drop to NPC corp.
When the war ends, rejoin my player corp.


How is this fun for anyone?


At least if I can force someone to ruin their employment history it's worth it. People should not be allowed to "fly their colours" and not beeing wardecced.

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#87 - 2013-03-05 17:01:01 UTC
luZk wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Get wardecced.
Don't undock for a week.
If the war continues to a second week, drop to NPC corp.
When the war ends, rejoin my player corp.

How is this fun for anyone?

At least if I can force someone to ruin their employment history it's worth it. People should not be allowed to "fly their colours" and not beeing wardecced.

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2013-03-05 17:01:30 UTC
luZk wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Get wardecced.
Don't undock for a week.
If the war continues to a second week, drop to NPC corp.
When the war ends, rejoin my player corp.


How is this fun for anyone?


At least if I can force someone to ruin their employment history it's worth it. People should not be allowed to "fly their colours" and not beeing wardecced.


Ruin my employment history? As if a high sec industry corp is going to care that I drop to an NPC corp when I get war dec'ed to go about my business without unnecessary losses or drawing attention to my corp.

What you call "ruin" we high sec industrialists call "exactly what we're looking for".
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2013-03-05 17:02:55 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-03-05 17:09:06 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?


Let me turn that around.

Why do YOU want all PVP'ers to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#91 - 2013-03-05 17:11:17 UTC
Zilero wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?


Let me turn that around.

Why do YOU want all PVP'ers to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?

Wardecing defenseless corps in highsec isn't PVP.

Ganking isn't PVP

Bumping isn't PVP.

Blobbing isn't PVP either, it's just "F1"ing.


Only honorable 1v1 duels and shooting structures are PVP.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#92 - 2013-03-05 17:12:38 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?


Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2013-03-05 17:14:48 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Zilero wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?


Let me turn that around.

Why do YOU want all PVP'ers to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?

Wardecing defenseless corps in highsec isn't PVP.

Ganking isn't PVP

Bumping isn't PVP.

Blobbing isn't PVP either, it's just "F1"ing.


Only honorable 1v1 duels and shooting structures are PVP.


Every single one of those are examples of PVP (PVP = Player vs. Player, says nothing about fairness).

Unless you of course think PVP should be fair all the time... in which case I suggest a single player game.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-03-05 17:15:12 UTC
I vote "Get rid of wardecs AND Concord."

Let the peeveepee begin :)

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#95 - 2013-03-05 17:15:54 UTC
luZk wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?

Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?

CONCORD says so. You wanna pick a fight with our security gods?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2013-03-05 17:17:08 UTC
Zilero wrote:

Let me turn that around.

Why do YOU want all PVP'ers to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?


Find a post where I suggest getting rid of null, low, and other mechanism that players interested in PvP use to PvP with each other, then I'll answer that question.

What I'm proposing is that we maintain the current limits on PvP that largely allow those not interested in PvP, to continue to play the game.


Or, are you implying that the only PvP in EVE is PvPers blowing up carebears. Is there NO fighting between two players that are both looking for a fight?


If you can't ruin some carebear's day, then the game just isn't worth playing? Wow. Someone needs to get to a psycologist's office and pronto before they turn into another school shooting.
Zilero
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-03-05 17:17:11 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
luZk wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Ruining employment history = ruining fun.

It should not be allowed in highsec.


What should not be allowed? An effective counter to the griefing war dec?

Why do you want all carebears to quit and bankrupt CCP as a result?

Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?

CONCORD says so. You wanna pick a fight with our security gods?


Concord also allows us to shoot you in hisec, with a consequence as well as make hisec wardecs. So yeah...
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2013-03-05 17:19:36 UTC
luZk wrote:

Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?


Because it is necessary to ensure I can earn the ISK I need to fund my accounts with PLEX.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#99 - 2013-03-05 17:21:31 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
luZk wrote:
Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?

Because it is necessary to ensure I can earn the ISK I need to fund my accounts with PLEX.

I hear you bro, we must keep this really low risk playstyle alive despite what the proponents for "pvp" and "balance" want to say about it.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#100 - 2013-03-05 17:27:38 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
luZk wrote:

Why should you be allowed to market pvp others but they cant regular pvp you? Is'nt that a bit selfish?


Because it is necessary to ensure I can earn the ISK I need to fund my accounts with PLEX.


If nobody could kill you in high sec you would'nt be able to do that, the ore you mine would be worth nothing as everyone would mine with no consequence all day and low end mineral prices would crash.

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg