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(FIX for exploration) 2 part high/low rated dead sites

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-03-05 14:38:51 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
I draw my 95% from random bs.


T3's are one of the most used exploration ship in low-sec and null as well.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Makavelia
National Industries
#22 - 2013-03-05 14:40:10 UTC
dexington wrote:
Makavelia wrote:
Please do not derail the OP to tip toe around the fact 95% of T3 piloits are sht scared carebears who do not want to lose out on billions of risk free isk.


You can make billions risk free running missions, you are just butthurting because someone else is making more isk then you.

HTFU, learn to play and stop the ******** whining about T3 pilots and carebears.



You need to be in a shiny mach with a lot of BS skills + expensive fit to avg out some 60-80M per hour in missions. How long does it take to jump in a avg fit T3 that auto wins any T1?.

Why did you put a ''and'' between T3 carebears btw.





Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-03-05 14:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ana Fox
Makavelia wrote:

In high sec, every other system has a locki or tengu, sometimes multiple T3 with 24 sisters out.


But why ? Did you think why is that way ? Well in High sec you have only one ded 3 site that can be cleared with BC ,and that is Guristas one.Rest only let cruiser hulls in.Only drone sites cant be entered with T3 hulls, but guess what ,they are crap anyway and no one is doing them.

There is also a lot of Tengu pilots doing missions,cause from some reason all think that is so fuking awesom ship and can do all.It cant and it is crap for any that is not weak on kin/thermal.

Things got worse after AI change ,cause turret ships are almost not usable in some parts of empire.So Tengu as missile platform became a new Drake.

So why not use great ship if you can? When you go low sec BC is ok for DEDs ,cause lowest DED you will find in low sec is DED 4 and abowe ,so you can enter all.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-03-05 15:04:58 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
How long does it take to jump in a avg fit T3 that auto wins any T1?.


I got a T3 but i still use T1 ships for exploration, and i steal as much loot as is stolen from me. If you want to explore in Caldari space you better get the best possible ship, if you move elsewhere the competition is not as bad.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Calisto Thellere
#25 - 2013-03-05 15:05:08 UTC
Makavelia wrote:


How long does it take to jump in a avg fit T3 that auto wins any T1?.





Thats the whole point you muppet.

How long does it take to move upto a sht fit T2 to auto win a T1?

Your arguments in this thread are bordering on butthurt that people can 'choose' to train into a T3 and make good isk while you 'choose' to live in lowsec and whine that you dont get any T3's to kill?!

So what im basically getting from this thread is whaaa some people are making lots of isk while i sit here in lowsec chasing T1 scraps.

Amirite?
Makavelia
National Industries
#26 - 2013-03-05 15:05:45 UTC
Ana Fox wrote:
Makavelia wrote:

In high sec, every other system has a locki or tengu, sometimes multiple T3 with 24 sisters out.


But why ? Did you think why is that way ? Well in High sec you have only one ded 3 site that can be cleared with BS ,and that is Guristas one.Rest only let cruiser hulls in.Only drone sites cant be entered with T3 hulls, but guess what ,they are crap anyway and no one is doing them.

There is also a lot of Tengu pilots doing missions,cause from some reason all think that is so fuking awesom ship and can do all.It cant and it is crap for any that is not weak on kin/thermal.

Things got worse after AI change ,cause turret ships are almost not usable in some parts of empire.So Tengu as missile platform became a new Drake.

So why not use great ship if you can? When you go low sec BS is ok for DEDs ,cause lowest DED you will find in low sec is DED 4 and abowe ,so you can enter all.


Imagine if a piolit knew how to use the directional scanner for wrecks, probes.. ships.. etc. that person may be able to quickly determin who is doing what in a system with a handfull of people in it.
Makavelia
National Industries
#27 - 2013-03-05 15:17:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Makavelia
Calisto Thellere wrote:
Makavelia wrote:


How long does it take to jump in a avg fit T3 that auto wins any T1?.





Thats the whole point you muppet.

How long does it take to move upto a sht fit T2 to auto win a T1?

Your arguments in this thread are bordering on butthurt that people can 'choose' to train into a T3 and make good isk while you 'choose' to live in lowsec and whine that you dont get any T3's to kill?!

So what im basically getting from this thread is whaaa some people are making lots of isk while i sit here in lowsec chasing T1 scraps.

Amirite?


Badly fit T2 cruiser will lose to a Well fit T1. A badly fit BS will lose to a well fit BC.

A badly fit T3 can be compared to a badly fit BS in EHP.. but the guns and hull is smaller. That's bad news for the BC.

The whole T3 thing is just a way to pay isk to get ahead of anybody in something lower.. regardless of their SP. I could accept that, if the ISK you can make as a result was not so easy gained with fk all risk.

The T3 bs is just a sell out from ccp to curve SP training.. and keep the carebears or IMUSTWINNAAAAOW subscribers happy.

Even the loss in skill is nothing. Once you are flying a well skilled T3.. what else do you realy need SP for?. And it's not like you lose a T3 every other ''year'' is it?.
Kodama Ikari
Thragon
#28 - 2013-03-05 17:23:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodama Ikari
@OP: too long, didn't read. Why did you bother making a second thread for the same topic when there's a 3 page thread at the top of the forum already?

dismantling the framework for how DED sites work compared with non-DED sites is not really a constructive suggestion. If you don't like hisec ded-4's then you should just ask ccp to put them in lowsec.
Makavelia
National Industries
#29 - 2013-03-05 20:43:00 UTC
Kodama Ikari wrote:
@OP: too long, didn't read. Why did you bother making a second thread for the same topic when there's a 3 page thread at the top of the forum already?

dismantling the framework for how DED sites work compared with non-DED sites is not really a constructive suggestion. If you don't like hisec ded-4's then you should just ask ccp to put them in lowsec.


Ti:dr
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-03-05 20:58:24 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
The T3 bs is just a sell out from ccp to curve SP training..


You know nothing jon snow...

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

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