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Why do titan pilots trap themselves?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#21 - 2013-03-04 18:39:13 UTC
Came expecting a thread on unsupported titans in lowsec. Left disappointed.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#22 - 2013-03-04 18:41:22 UTC
All of the above, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to anchor and lock your Titan in a POS?

I know, I know, game balance issues...

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2013-03-04 22:02:11 UTC
vyshnegradsky wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
When you kick up your feet and smoke the cigar do you not want to be pressing buttons. You just watch everyone paying their taxes and smile while enjoying the view from your "retirement home" aka Titan.



....., a coffin is for life.......





lets disagree there

No a coffin is for life.

Crap I just broke the masquerade.
Jalebi
Tata Space Industries
#24 - 2013-03-04 22:24:48 UTC
Supers are almost exclusively held on dedicated characters/accounts. As for the rest of the people in this thread, only the scrubbiest of scrubs use holder alts.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#25 - 2013-03-04 23:17:19 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
I mean it's a fine ship and all. But it appears to be sort of an endgame. Get a Titan or SC and retire to the confines of your cockpit until called upon. No other activity allowed, PVE, mining or industry. Heck you can't even dock the thing.

For all intensive purposes, Your trapped. You are a slave to your alliance and your ship.

Why do you do it? Other then the cool flashy DD when you activate it.



it's called a holding alt. It's where you \have a second toon that logs off in it. The toon can only sit in it though. Then you do stuff on your main
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-03-04 23:41:51 UTC
thecunning mrfox wrote:
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Pewty McPew wrote:
IFor all intensive purposes...


*grinds teeth*


I feel you brother
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/all-intents-and-purposes.html



My boss always says "go full board" instead of "go full bore" and I just want to slam his head into his desk repeatedly every single time.
iskflakes
#27 - 2013-03-04 23:58:47 UTC
It's bad game design.

SCs and Titans should be able to dock, or should be given the ability to engage in other content. How about some PVE content designed for supercaps, or some PVP content designed for titans? Right now neither exist unless you consider bridging to be PVP.

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stoicfaux
#28 - 2013-03-05 00:05:52 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
It's bad game design.


IIRC, if you put a hanger in a hanger, the server explodes. One day they may be able to dock, but since anyone who can afford a SC/Titan can afford an alt account (i.e. another sub,) I don't see CCP rushing to fix the problem.



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#29 - 2013-03-05 00:08:13 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Whitehound wrote:
When you kick up your feet and smoke the cigar do you not want to be pressing buttons. You just watch everyone paying their taxes and smile while enjoying the view from your "retirement home" aka Titan.



Most people would not consider a floating coffin a "Retirement home".
A retirement home, you can leave every once in awhile, a coffin is for life.......





Let me tell you about Holder Alts, and Alt Accounts.



Thanks, been there, done that. It's still a dead character......Lol

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Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#30 - 2013-03-05 00:57:15 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
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IIRC, if you put a hanger in a hanger, the server explodes.



Docking a titan/SC is different than docking a standard carrier/rorqual/orca how?

Not that being unable to dock a super is really a problem; I'm perfectly content with having one of my characters dedicated towards a supercap. It would be nice to securely dock them in some way to a POS (or something similar), but the safe logoff timer was a good move to alleviate this a bit.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-03-05 01:19:19 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
E: Also remove supers.

Yeah, let's remove one of the biggest conflict drivers in the game.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#32 - 2013-03-05 02:53:49 UTC
but afk cloaking is so much more fun when the thing you are afking in is a titan.
Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-03-05 03:03:26 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
I mean it's a fine ship and all. But it appears to be sort of an endgame. Get a Titan or SC and retire to the confines of your cockpit until called upon. No other activity allowed, PVE, mining or industry. Heck you can't even dock the thing.

For all intensive purposes, Your trapped. You are a slave to your alliance and your ship.

Why do you do it? Other then the cool flashy DD when you activate it.


...intensive purposes? really? wow...kids today...

oh, and, yeah. super pilots are alts. leaving supers in POSes is a terrible idea, so they just log these chars off in space.

"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#34 - 2013-03-05 03:31:07 UTC
Just out of curiosity how much isk and training skills time does it take to have and properly fit and fly one of those ships?.

Someone said you can't do PVE on it, may I ask why?
Theangryhobo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-03-05 03:36:22 UTC
It takes roughly a year or so to train into, and more ISK than you've ever seen.

As for PvE, tell Chribba you can't. See what he says.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-03-05 05:36:51 UTC
TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE!

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-03-05 05:41:57 UTC
Maybe in 2015 CCP comes out with a death-star esque building that is the size of a planet, costs 1 trillion isk, and allows the docking of anything smaller than a moon.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-03-05 05:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
Just out of curiosity how much isk and training skills time does it take to have and properly fit and fly one of those ships?.

A titan generally runs about 80 billion isk at least and flying it to its full potential takes about two years.

CMD Ishikawa wrote:
Someone said you can't do PVE on it, may I ask why?

Well it's huge, its slow, can only lock 3 targets, locks about half as fast as a tier 3 battleship, is a MAJOR target, XL guns have terrible tracking, and XL guns when put on titans have the additional drawback that they do less damage to targets smaller than the gun signature resolution of 2000 m.

If you had an Abaddon sitting perfectly still and an Avatar sitting perfectly still within its optimal range, your 12000 paper DPS titan will only do about 700 DPS to the battleship, and significantly less if it starts moving. Even the titan moving at half speed brings that to below 300 DPS.

But if that battleship pilot is dumb enough to MWD straight toward the titan he'll get hit with the full 12000 DPS.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-03-05 05:54:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Pewty McPew wrote:
I mean it's a fine ship and all. But it appears to be sort of an endgame. Get a Titan or SC and retire to the confines of your cockpit until called upon. No other activity allowed, PVE, mining or industry. Heck you can't even dock the thing.

For all intensive purposes, Your trapped. You are a slave to your alliance and your ship.

Why do you do it? Other then the cool flashy DD when you activate it.

People leave them in POS bubbles. Saw an Avatar sitting in a 0.2 the other day. Don't remember where or who it belonged to. It was somewhere in Black Rise.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken
Ch3244
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-03-05 05:57:37 UTC
you don't run forsaken hubs in your Avatar?