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Drake-what rigs to use

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Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-03-03 12:34:22 UTC
i have a cnr and tengu but just love messing round in my drake. i can do lvl3 and lvl4 missions in it quite easily with abit of care and attention, however i am not so sure if the rigs in my ships are worth keeping or if i should change them.
this ship is mainly pve missions.

currently i have
2 x medium core defense field extender I
medium anti em screen reinforcer I

i use t1 heavy missiles, have 331 dps and 34,205hp according to in game fitting screen, i am also cap stable

is it worth changing the rigs? if so what too.

thanks

"If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence you ever tried"

"If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail"

John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#2 - 2013-03-03 12:40:25 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
i have a cnr and tengu but just love messing round in my drake. i can do lvl3 and lvl4 missions in it quite easily with abit of care and attention, however i am not so sure if the rigs in my ships are worth keeping or if i should change them.
this ship is mainly pve missions.

currently i have
2 x medium core defense field extender I
medium anti em screen reinforcer I

i use t1 heavy missiles, have 331 dps and 34,205hp according to in game fitting screen, i am also cap stable

is it worth changing the rigs? if so what too.

thanks



I've been messing around with a HAM Drake fit in EFT this morning and can get 843 DPS from that, so you have a lot of options for increasing DPS TBH.

Is there a reason you are using T1 ammo instead of T2? Low SP?

If you post your fit then people might be able to give you more accurate advice; it's difficult to give rig suggestions without seeing the rest of your fit.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-03-03 17:39:20 UTC
the rest of my fit is

6 x heavy missile launchers II

experimental 10mn afterburner I
2 x large f-s9 regolith shield induction
em ward amplifier II
kinetic deflection field II
thermic dissipation field II

damage control II
3 x ballistic control system II

the reason i do not use t2 ammo in missions is cost 60isk for t1 600isk for t2 is a big difference , missile skill points currently
round 8.5 million

"If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence you ever tried"

"If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail"

Alara IonStorm
#4 - 2013-03-03 17:52:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
the rest of my fit is

Generally the standard for a passive tanked Drake is 1 Sheild Power Rely II and 3 Core Defense Field Purger for level 3's, maybe replacing a hardener for a painter.

Mr Chili Palmer wrote:

the reason i do not use t2 ammo in missions is cost 60isk for t1 600isk for t2 is a big difference , missile skill points currently
round 8.5 million

When I was lazy I used to do some level 4's with a Drake with 1-2 SPR's because I could AFK. Furies vs Battleships saved a lot of time because their buffers and HP regen, you could kill them in almost half as many shots, that equaled more ISK overall in completion speed and less tedium.
Orlacc
#5 - 2013-03-03 18:58:07 UTC
If you are finding your tank is not getting dented throw on a Rigor.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Radhe Amatin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-03-04 06:01:45 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
If you are finding your tank is not getting dented throw on a Rigor.


MY pve drake looks like this:

BCU II x 3
Shield Power Relay x 1

Invulnerability Field II x 1
Pith C-type Kinetic Defelection Field x 1
Large Shield Extender x 2
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron x 1
10MN Afterburner x 1

Heavy Missile Launcher II x 6

Medium Core Defense Field Purgers x 3

I mostly deal with guristas rats .....

Tanks vs guristas 230 ehp/s
Dps with Caldary Navy Scourge = 355 at 55 KM range
Dps with Scourge Fury = 415 at 42 km range

I use mostly Core defense purgers for pve and Core defense field extenders for pvp.....
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-03-04 06:35:19 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
I've been messing around with a HAM Drake fit in EFT this morning and can get 843 DPS from that, so you have a lot of options for increasing DPS TBH.


889 :) Of course, such a fit is not realistic, a much more realistic variant is a 400 dps passive tanked Drake.
Ravage Prime
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-03-04 09:26:49 UTC
For Drake:

Purger riggs for PVE
Extender riggs for PVP
Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-04 10:53:21 UTC
thanks all

"If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence you ever tried"

"If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail"

John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#10 - 2013-03-04 11:56:36 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
I've been messing around with a HAM Drake fit in EFT this morning and can get 843 DPS from that, so you have a lot of options for increasing DPS TBH.


889 :) Of course, such a fit is not realistic, a much more realistic variant is a 400 dps passive tanked Drake.


I suppose not. If you're going to drop that sort of cash you'd be better off in a BS. A fun exercise though! Blink

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-03-04 12:00:36 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
I've been messing around with a HAM Drake fit in EFT this morning and can get 843 DPS from that, so you have a lot of options for increasing DPS TBH.


889 :) Of course, such a fit is not realistic, a much more realistic variant is a 400 dps passive tanked Drake.


Let me tell you about active tanking. It works pretty well on Drakes.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#12 - 2013-03-04 12:05:54 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Let me tell you about active tanking. It works pretty well on Drakes.


That's what I did. Pith A Medium Booster & Amp and 2 mission specific resists. Numbers looked OK IIRC.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-03-04 12:16:28 UTC
Rigors.

And do not use Fury hams + pimp for that paper dps.
Kodama Ikari
Thragon
#14 - 2013-03-04 15:04:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodama Ikari
WIth the resistance bonus + an invuln, you're probably better off with another extender/purger instead of the EM rig. If you're going against EM heavy damage, just fit a specific hardener. Typically I would stick with shield rigs on a drake to keep the fit versatile, but the rigor rig is a very good option that will not go to waste. It works well with a target painter or in place of one.

John Ratcliffe wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Let me tell you about active tanking. It works pretty well on Drakes.


That's what I did. Pith A Medium Booster & Amp and 2 mission specific resists. Numbers looked OK IIRC.



Anything you put a Pithum A-type med booster on turns to gold. Its not necessarily an indicator of an great fit (i mean, I can active shield tank a damn mega if i wanted with one of those). You could buy a faction fit tengu with a c-type med or a-type small booster for the price of that pithum a-type, and it would do a lot better than your drake. Only reason to pimp a drake out that much for missions is that its less likely to get scanned and suicided. That said, this may be a good enough reason, and even without the expensive mod, there's nothing wrong with active tanking a drake.


sabre906 wrote:
Rigors.

And do not use Fury hams + pimp for that paper dps.


Do not ever NOT use Rage HAMs or Fury HMs when shooting BCs/BSs/structures. Especially when you're pushing over 8m sp in missile skills like OP is. If you have low base dps this will make a huge difference in the speed you take down BS. If you have high dps already, then you'll go from 'dying quickly' to 'melting.'

Also, HAMs work very well right now. They also hit frigates much harder than heavy missiles (faction hams rip elite frigs apart with high skills). Range is still an issue. At least its just range you have to worry about and not range, dps application, and pg use, like before.
Kane Alvo
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-03-04 17:31:23 UTC
I use the "standard" passive Drake for missions (can't use T2 missiles yet). I've played around with various rigs, and x2 Rigors offers the most bang for the buck in my opinion. Yes, you can get more raw DPS with other rigs, but the Rigors apply more damage to smaller ships.


[Drake, PvE Passive Tank]

6x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher (Scourge Heavy Missile)

2x Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
2x Shield Recharger II
2x Large Shield Extender II

Shield Power Relay II
3x Ballistic Control System II

2x Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Caldari Militia  ☜★☞ Psychotic Monk for CSM8

Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-03-05 07:38:05 UTC
Kane Alvo wrote:
I use the "standard" passive Drake for missions (can't use T2 missiles yet). I've played around with various rigs, and x2 Rigors offers the most bang for the buck in my opinion. Yes, you can get more raw DPS with other rigs, but the Rigors apply more damage to smaller ships.


[Drake, PvE Passive Tank]

6x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher (Scourge Heavy Missile)

2x Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
2x Shield Recharger II
2x Large Shield Extender II

Shield Power Relay II
3x Ballistic Control System II

2x Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I



Missile precision makes the use of Rigors in PVE unneeded. you could also remove a shield mod in the mid slots for a target painter if you still fear loosing to much damage against a smaller target.