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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#21 - 2013-03-04 10:58:30 UTC
I was not on grid and therefore never saw this.

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Signal11th
#22 - 2013-03-04 11:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Whisperen wrote:
You could try not soloing lvl 4s and use a small gang of people instead.



Why? Just because it's an MMO doesn't mean you have to be social 100% of the time.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Lucia Severasse
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
Seventh Sanctum.
#23 - 2013-03-04 11:20:44 UTC
im sure i heard someone mention target painters before will keep agro on the ship aswell as its a electronic warfare module.. but ive not tested it myself.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-03-04 13:13:39 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Missions are simple, very simple, with a Large Micro Jump Drive on your drone boat along with sentries. Easier than even before the NPC AI changes. Blink

it's quite funny that people constantly say this on forums and still there is people who don't know.... Roll

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-03-04 14:39:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
nubile slave wrote:

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Now I know it's been a long time since I've done missions, but the NPC's now instalock your drones?
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Glad I don't have to do missions to earn a living.....


NPC AI is now very bad.

I jump into a mission pocket in an assault-frig while someone is banging away at the NPC's in a Myrm, and the NPC's switch agro to...wait for it...my salvage drones.

Yep, evidently NPC FC's have been instructed to ignore the BC blapping their friends, and primary those dreaded salvage bots!

Of course when those are gone they primary me when I am not even targetting them, again ignoring the Myrm whacking their buds. Who's the bigger threat to them, the Myrm blazing away or the assault-frig not even targetting them? Really?

It's breaks with reality like this that make good science fiction bad, mmkay?

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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#26 - 2013-03-04 14:40:29 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Missions are simple, very simple, with a Large Micro Jump Drive on your drone boat along with sentries. Easier than even before the NPC AI changes. Blink


How does this work exactly?

Micro jump away from the frigs, drop sentries and kill them as they fly over to you. If they somehow get under your sentries, repeat.


Just don't forget to recall your sentries before MJDing...Shocked



That's why I put my drones show they show up on my overview... so I don't forget, lol.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#27 - 2013-03-04 14:54:33 UTC  |  Edited by: I Love Boobies
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
Missions are simple, very simple, with a Large Micro Jump Drive on your drone boat along with sentries. Easier than even before the NPC AI changes. Blink


How does this work exactly?



As the others said... just activate the LMJD as you warp in. Once you come out of warp, you stop your ship, deploy sentries and pick off the frigates, and others as they come to you. Make sure you have sentries with long range capabilities, not the close in thermal damage ones. All the other ones would work.

Also, make sure you keep a set of the thermal (can never keep the sentries names straight) in case the ships get in close, which they shouldn't if you do it right. In my Rattlesnake, I keep a set of thermal all times, then usually the mission specific sentries I need, a set of mission specific large and small drones. Most of the time, only have to deploy the mission specific sentry drones as they kill frigs fast at a distance, as well as destroyers, cruisers, battlecruiser and then battleship. That is usually the order I kill them in.

If you go off in the right direction, you can even do it so you don't have to fly to the next gate if there is one. You can align in a manner where you can LMJD directly to the next gate after you have killed all the rats in the room. Takes some practice though.

As for the fitting on my Rattlesnake to make this possible, I have 2 Drone Link Augmentor II in the high slots, 2 Omindirectional Tracking Link II in the medium slots, and anywhere from 3 to 4 Drone Damage Amplifier II in the low slots, depending on the mission. With this set up, along with my cruise missiles, I get 1076 dps.

Anyway, hope this has helped.
Colonel Sponz
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
#28 - 2013-03-04 14:59:49 UTC
nubile slave wrote:
Due to excessive boredom i decided to run a couple level 4's last night. Entered the room in my Nightmare, Sansha, lots of Sentries, couple BS, couple cruisers, couple frigs, all at about 20k.
Frigs aggro immediately and I only manage to kill one before they get in close.
No problem, i'll drop drones....What?
Drop 5 Valk 2's, Drone durability 5.
Frigs are 6k away, agress one of them, see instant damage on a drone, recall them...and lose one on the way back......
So, I let the flies buzz, instapop the cruisers, kill the sentries and BS.
I again drop my 4 remaining drones. One is killed instantly, before I can order them to redock.
Now I know it's been a long time since I've done missions, but the NPC's now instalock your drones? The three frigs never stopped firing on me, never lost aggro on them. Yet they were able to kill a drone within five seconds of being released?

The first time, I assumed i simply didn't see one of the NPC's refocus fire, but I didn't see the frigs refocus fire, so, NPC's will now fire on multiple targets at the same time?

Glad I don't have to do missions to earn a living.....


I feel your pain although MJDs and a sensor booster loaded with a targetting range script does the job. Two shotting 1m ISK bounty BS from 120km is tremendously satisfying.
Colonel Sponz
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
#29 - 2013-03-04 15:04:34 UTC
Whisperen wrote:
You could try not soloing lvl 4s and use a small gang of people instead.


LOL k

Missions are unrewarding enough without having to share the spoils. If you can't solo level 4s in half the time it takes to salvage them then you're doing something wrong.
Signal11th
#30 - 2013-03-04 15:26:12 UTC
Colonel Sponz wrote:
nubile slave wrote:
Due to excessive boredom i decided to run a couple level 4's last night. Entered the room in my Nightmare, Sansha, lots of Sentries, couple BS, couple cruisers, couple frigs, all at about 20k.
Frigs aggro immediately and I only manage to kill one before they get in close.
No problem, i'll drop drones....What?
Drop 5 Valk 2's, Drone durability 5.
Frigs are 6k away, agress one of them, see instant damage on a drone, recall them...and lose one on the way back......
So, I let the flies buzz, instapop the cruisers, kill the sentries and BS.
I again drop my 4 remaining drones. One is killed instantly, before I can order them to redock.
Now I know it's been a long time since I've done missions, but the NPC's now instalock your drones? The three frigs never stopped firing on me, never lost aggro on them. Yet they were able to kill a drone within five seconds of being released?

The first time, I assumed i simply didn't see one of the NPC's refocus fire, but I didn't see the frigs refocus fire, so, NPC's will now fire on multiple targets at the same time?

Glad I don't have to do missions to earn a living.....


I feel your pain although MJDs and a sensor booster loaded with a targetting range script does the job. Two shotting 1m ISK bounty BS from 120km is tremendously satisfying.



I love to see what you are using to 2 shot a 1m isk bounty rat as currently I'm sat in a 1576dps sentry carrier using Gardes and it still takes me 4/5 shots to kill a 1m isk rat. Thats at optimal with near perfect skills as well.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-03-04 16:12:05 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
There's your problem right there. Don't use mediums to kill frigs. It's slower and frigs will take them down really quickly. Also they're too slow to get back to your ship if they're taking fire. Use lights and the problem you are describing is no longer a problem. That way you can kill the frigs even with all the other ships on grid because only NPC frigs and elite cruisers will target light drones now.

Your welcome.

/thread


This right here. Also using explosive damage drones vs mission Sansha isn't going to help them kill anything either.
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