EVE General Discussion

Highsec space will be extremely strained by any pop increase. Barring another hardware upgrade, market hubs would have to go regional. Hopefully CCP would take the opportunity to make low and null more attractive to highsec residents who don't mind a bit more risk in exchange for more rewards. Any highsec activity other than mission running and trading would become more difficult and less lucrative.

And hopefully with the extra money from the extra subs, we'd get more shinies. What kind of shinies depends on what the new customers are interested in.

You seem to do the ignoring bit quite well, especially when people don't agree with you, you come across as a petulant child in that respect. I'm not muddying the waters per se, I'm merely trying to understand your point of view and maybe spark some debate.

I never said that the percentage of alt accounts in WoW was as high as it is in Eve, I merely pointed out that people have multiple accounts in both games. With reference to CCP advertising special deals on alt accounts, they do that because they know that Eve is a niche game and that its appeal is limited to a subsection of gamers, hence their development of Dust 514 and the World of Darkness franchise to appeal to a wider audience.

Eve caters to those gamers that like an MMO to have consequences, where our actions can have an influence on the entire universe and where we are the content, there's very few MMOs out there that can offer the same level of freeform play that Eve does.

You forgot the Brennivin and Vodka, I'm sure they only drink the damn stuff because antifreeze is poisonous.

Thanks for the clarification, I've never played WoW, so could only compare healers with logi from what I've been told by friends that do. It's good to know that I'm not a total ignoramus

TiDi in Jita can't really get worse, there's the cap.

We'd see more threads about people spamming the gates into Jita, making it all the more important for HARDCORE EVE ONLINE JITA PLAYERS to log into Jita as fast as possible after downtime and never log out.

Your original point was that the number of subscriptions was not an accurate indicator of the health of the game due to people having alts. It was simply pointed out other MMO's have the same issue as well, which is undeniably true.

The best analysis we can come up with STILL indicates that the number of active players is going up as a direct proportion of the number of new subscriptions... even taking into account that a certain percentage of those accounts are alt accounts.

While this detracts nothing from the well being of the parent company (after all, a paid account is a paid account) it also bodes well for the overall health of the game.

I'd say the waters are pretty much crystal clear.

Edit: You know, it's funny. It doesn't matter if the subscription numbers go down, stay the same, or go up... somebody will always try to show how it proves that EvE is (still, 10 years running) dying.

Machiavellian Space Bastards.

MSB.

Good alliance name.

And another joins and you get another two, sometimes more. There is a reason that EVE has shown positive growth over the last decade and that reason has little to do with conspiracy theories.

Very funny how you can apply some real-life observations into Eve concerning doomsaying. ^^


Also, even if the subject of subscriptions and alts can easily generate a lot of hype, if you start looking at the numbers for your corporation or the corporations around you, you may find a lot of people with multiple account, but a majority is running a single account.

So I would better expect a subscriber count around 350-400k. Which is, anyway, not that relevant.

moar regions?