EVE General Discussion

i find it funny that you think you're going to get ganked.

I define it as a game where you can do whatever you want and the majority of content is created or run by players.

mine closer to jita then, no gankers there. i say that with a completely straight face.

as for the new order people, rofl, honestly, i'm not even convinced they exist.

Your more likely to have your tengu ganked. Barges are statistically the safest ship to be in at the moment dispite the fact almost all of them fit no tank to speak of.

For how much longer? I've seen the game go from being able to escape concord to having to suicide to kill someone. I've seen concord respond faster and faster with more and more force. I've seen can flipping removed from the game. I saw it go from developers intentionally giving secure cans low room because they didn't want to remove that play-style to implementing ore holds. I've seen flagging go from only the person you wronged to flagging you to everyone. I've seen it go from having to guard haulers to people using a cyno alt to bypass gate camps. Every year the game gets more safe (read: boring), less social and less free. How much longer until high sec is Trammel?


This has nothing to do with new vs old players.

why do i have these highly amusing mackinaw killmails then?

I don't want to lose a single mackinaw, because it takes a long term to replace it with mining income. i mean, if you aren't running three accounts with orca support.

Well no, PVPers made sure that no matter how carefull you are in lowsec you will get the occasional loss and because of that the weekly/monthly income is similar for a similar amount of time played in low or high sec while low adds the nuisance off being constantly on guard while many simply want to relax.



As for your personaly experience could you tell us exactly when that was? And while your at give us an idea off how many other industrial corps were in operating in lowsec compared to the number of pirate corps operating there with a comparison to those numbers today? And perhaps then you'll realize that no one has any interest in setting it up since the moment they start something in low they will have a dozen pirate corps preying on them.


Also could you tell me what your problem is with only finding other PVPers in low? Aren't you looking for PVP or are you one off those that delude themselves with the idea the killing industrials and PVE fitted ships is actual PVP?



The simple fact is that PVPers made it unenjoyable for most to make a living in low and now that they only have targets that actually have a chance to fight back they complain that there aren't enough players and that CCP should find ways to herd non PVPers into low and null, but lets be honest here the players crying out for that don't want more players to live there they only want more easy targets.

You're upset about the greater potential for player interaction caused by the Suspect flag?
Cyno alts and jump freighters aren't a highsec issue. They're a low and nullsec logistics tool, and an extremely popular one.
And escaping Concord legitimitely must be VERY old indeed.

Well barge tanks were laughably weak at the time, I remember looking at the numbers. It was a struggle to get a ship costing hundreds of millions of ISK to survive an attack from a destroyer costing a 10th of that money. Perhaps they overdid it, I haven't checked the new figures.

There's better ways to get miners into nullsec. See the nullsec vs highsec industry threadnaught on front page of GD.

losing mackinaws.
successful.

pick one, and only one.