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Bring On The Cheap Mins
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Dave Stark
#21 - 2013-03-02 23:36:45 UTC
what if prices aren't falling, they're simply actually finding an equilibrium price after 12 months of loot changes, and tiericide speculation rather than anything to do with the supply of minerals, and the amount of mining being done?

i know, crazy.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#22 - 2013-03-02 23:52:54 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Excess supply and cheap prices are increasingly making this game pointless. When ships cost nothing to lose, you're essentially removing consequence from the game.

It also makes it difficult for casual players to enjoy mining if they have to compete with so many different people.

LOL, you are ridiculous.

I wanted to elaborate on this at first. But this nice 4 word summary is good enough Lol.

Remove standings and insurance.
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-03-03 02:35:07 UTC
Dear Jensaro,

This is CONCORD Major Payne, commodore of the Baboom Wing, flying in it's flagship WTFBBQ. As you are in violation of the interstellar concordand treaty of Y109, section 4 - B, paragraphs 7 through 11, and in accordance with the treaty of Y110, sections 2, 7 and 9 of the Yulai conventions, we have launched our Bacon Fry missiles at your ship, which will be eradicated shortly.
We have also informed your insurance company of these transgressions, for which they have nullified your insurance claim to your ship, the Omen class vessel named 'Redoubtable', registration 45-BA and anything onboard.
Also, Commodore Dongsmacker 76, I would hereby like to inform you that as your ill advised provocation of this situation, along with the fact I was just having my coffee and donuts as this call came in, we have decided to also launch Bacon Fry missiles at your vessel, the Rat Trap, please enjoy your weapons demonstration as a sign of our decidation to insuring the safety of these spacelanes.
We also intercepted your signal, informing Commodore Jensaro of your intention to escalate these hostilities by bringing several more ship in through a cynosural beacon, we have initiated a reverse harmonic Cynosural jam pulse, thus sending your squadron of vigilantes into the depths of space unknown.

Have a pleasant day, and remember, CONCORD Protects!

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-03-03 08:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodoric Darkwind
Zyshh wrote:
Behold... the "Age of Cheap Ships" is just about upon us. Big smile

As the "Ret Generation" cheerfully gobbles up asteroid fields hither and yon, in easily replaced and cheap barges, the price of Trit has begun it's tumble in Jita.

Ganks might be a little rarer (or practically non-existent, depending on who's "expert" opinion makes you all warm and tingly) but hey, player subscriptions are UP and that amazing Alt-buddy deal has meant nothing but AFK mining goodness. Big smile

So rejoice, denizens of New Eden, rejoice. The heady days of overpriced mins are over... right ? Blink



I don't think we will ever see pre-inferno ship prices again, before last spring MOST high ends came from drone alloys so lovingly harvested by hundreds if not thousands of ratting bots in the drone regions (the usual setup was 2 ravens + 1 badger per system hoovering up drone poop 23/7). Reprocessed T1 meta 0 modules also provided a decent chunk of highends (mostly coming from highsec mission runners).

In the post-inferno world highends actually have to be mined either in nullsec or wormholes and you can usually only find them in grav sites.

you will have to go quite a bit cheaper to come even close to pre-inferno. Back then a tier 3 BS cost about 130mil, now they approach 300mil for just the hull. In that same timespan the price on T2 ships has remained consistent, a HAC used to cost a bit more than a tier 3 BS but now you can just about get 2 HACs for the cost of a Rokh, Maelstrom or Abbadon.

When prices were at their highest a fully fit tier Rokh or Abbadon could almost rival the cost of a fully fit Tengu or Loki.
Whitehound
#25 - 2013-03-03 08:31:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
I don't think we will ever see pre-inferno ship prices again, before last spring MOST high ends came from drone alloys so lovingly harvested by hundreds if not thousands of ratting bots in the drone regions (the usual setup was 2 ravens + 1 badger per system hoovering up drone poop 23/7). Reprocessed T1 meta 0 modules also provided a decent chunk of highends (mostly coming from highsec mission runners).

In the post-inferno world highends actually have to be mined either in nullsec or wormholes and you can usually only find them in grav sites.

We are currently seeing trade volumes for Tritanium as they were almost 2 years ago, when the price for Tritanium was 3.50 ISK.

It does not matter where it is coming from, botters or honest miners, when all that matters is that it is coming. Big smile

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Skorpynekomimi
#26 - 2013-03-03 08:45:37 UTC
I don't care, really. If I still make a profit between buying minerals and selling manufactured goods, I'm good.

Economic PVP
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-03-03 22:34:46 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
I don't care, really. If I still make a profit between buying minerals and selling manufactured goods, I'm good.


This... because the Ferengi had it right. Blink



"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#28 - 2013-03-03 23:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Jensaro Koraka wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Pff. N00b. P
When I started, Tier 1 BSs were 100M and Tier 2 BCs were 50M… and another 50M to rig… and another 30M to fit.

The good ol days when EVE was played on a manual typewriter hooked up to a telegraph machine.

When I started all we had was carrier pigeons and notes written with quills.


pfffft when Grandpa Bill started all he had was smoke signals & Drums... notes where written on caves walls or chisled in stone
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
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