Science & Industry

Invention results are not what you think, - this is not a whine - it's a statement
Invention results tend towards the projected amounts with variance
I've had
1x11/11 success
1x 10/10 Success
2 x 9/9 fail
1x 10/10 fail


I have 3 character I use for invention one with
with a base rate for 40% and using no decryptors
5/5/5 one 5/5/4 and one 4/4/4

• Char expect| Total | Since last patch
• 4/4/4 48.26 | 49.70 | 36.36
• 4/5/5 49.56 | 49.78 | 48.44
• 5/5/5 50.40 | 47.95 | 52.83

• Char expect| Total | Since last patch
• 4/4/4 48.26 | 49.47 | 35.38
• 4/5/5 49.56 | 49.71 | 47.95
• 5/5/5 50.40 | 48.44 | 52.05

I've watched my invention results the last months with concern.

Mostly I get 3 to 4 Buzzards out of 10 runs, sometimes less. There were better times. Skills are 5/5/5. No use of decryptors. Are there other ways to get better results? Is there an implant?

I don't have any hard figures(don't keep track of how many BPCs I get per run) but I have the same feeling.

I invent modules with 3/3/3 skills, so the chance is 46.14%. That's 4-5 BPCs out of a 9 job run. Since the last patch my amount of BPCs has consistently been below average (never above than 5, but pretty often below 4) so I do feel the chance has decreased.

Confirming the new forums are nerfing invention rates (and officer spawns and faction loot drops).

9000 is overkill

1000 is sufficent

For the internet meme impaired:

Urban Dictionary wrote:

7. over 9000

Over 9000 is a term used to express a great amount of skill, strength, speed, etc. The term originated from the anime show Dragonball Z when Nappa asks Vegeta what his scouter ( a device used in Dragonball to measure the power level, or battle strength, of someone) said about Goku's power level. Vegeta's scouter was designed to pick up a power level up to 9000 whereas Goku's power level was "over 9000" which was what he told Nappa.

*Goku shows up*
Nappa: Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
Vegeta: It's over 9000!!!!!
*Vegeta removes and crushes scouter*
Nappa: What, 9000?! There's no way that can be right!

DBZ came out in the 80's, maybe he just has a good memory.

I tried google and just found this: http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/tag/overkill-9000/

Which by the way I found surprisingly funny

I haven't done invention in a couple of months but I did do it for about 2 years. After every patch I always used to pay more attention the my results to see if there had been any changes and if I was getting worse results. Ever time I got low results I would be like "they changed something and its screwing me over" and then I would forget about the good results. Then I would look back over the results before the patch and only see the good results and compare them to my failures after the patch. It wasn't until I averaged over the year to see that my results were always within 1% of the predicted result.

Honestly, I think its because we expect to see a deviation from the norm we forget that it is random chance and that you can just be very unlucky for awhile and get bad results. I remember after one patch was was getting around 10% above the predicted on average for about 2 weeks...I was well stoked!

On a separate note; I'm sure its me imagining it but it appeared to me that my guys with worse skills always did better than my maxed out guy. Though I could never be bothered to actually test that theory.

Oh god....how did I miss the 'over 9000' reference?..../facepalm