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T3 ships; how do they work?
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Skorpynekomimi
#1 - 2013-03-02 13:43:48 UTC
So. T3 ships look intriguing, but they're complex and expensive. So, I have questions for you people:

How do subsystems work?
Can you change them out after first fitting them?
What are T3 ships good for, with all that versatility?

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#2 - 2013-03-02 14:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Different subsystems allow a T3 to be configured to do many tasks each subsystem come with its own 'Drawback' for instance the Sub that allows a T3 to be a covert ops reduces turrets and hardpoints making it less dps and more stealth, things like that.

Yes you can change Subsystems in any stations fitting service.

T3's excellent ships for many aspects of the game from Cloaked Interdiction Bubble Dodger (cant be stopped with bubbles) to heavy tank Sleeper site runner (resists over 90% an easy goal) and the list goes on and on.

Great ships to learn, painfull ship to lose, as the loss of this ship will also cost you one of the Subsystems skills, and you will have to re-train it.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Skorpynekomimi
#3 - 2013-03-02 17:43:22 UTC
Okay. Since I'm a minmatar pilot, I'll be training for a Loki first. Suggested fits/uses?

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#4 - 2013-03-02 18:13:49 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Okay. Since I'm a minmatar pilot, I'll be training for a Loki first. Suggested fits/uses?

The name of the game with T3s is "I want it to do this, so... fits?" So what do you want to do with your Loki?

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Skorpynekomimi
#5 - 2013-03-02 18:17:21 UTC
Well, maybe L4 missions, maybe sleeper sites, maybe low/null exploration, maybe pvp.

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Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-03-02 18:21:45 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:

Great ships to learn, painfull ship to lose, as the loss of this ship will also cost you one of the Subsystems skills, and you will have to re-train it.


we lose the skills like subsystem IV downgrade to subsystem III or subsystem IV to nothing?
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#7 - 2013-03-02 18:26:31 UTC
Roseline Penshar wrote:
Goldiiee wrote:

Great ships to learn, painfull ship to lose, as the loss of this ship will also cost you one of the Subsystems skills, and you will have to re-train it.


we lose the skills like subsystem IV downgrade to subsystem III or subsystem IV to nothing?

It simply knocks it down 1 level. It either picks the highest one, or if they are all the same level, picks at random.
At most you lose 4 days training

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Skorpynekomimi
#8 - 2013-03-02 18:33:26 UTC
Does it remove the skill entirely if it's at level 1 when you lose the rank?

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#9 - 2013-03-02 19:27:14 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Does it remove the skill entirely if it's at level 1 when you lose the rank?

Holy ****, good question. But I don't have the answer because you really shouldn't be flying one with a sub skill at 1... I'd assune though it knocks it down to "injected but 0"

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Anachronic
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-02 20:21:41 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Does it remove the skill entirely if it's at level 1 when you lose the rank?



They are all rank 1 skills so they take almost no time to train to IV which is the lowest you should be flying them at.
Skorpynekomimi
#11 - 2013-03-02 20:27:00 UTC
Anachronic wrote:
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Does it remove the skill entirely if it's at level 1 when you lose the rank?



They are all rank 1 skills so they take almost no time to train to IV which is the lowest you should be flying them at.


Obviously.
However, that question was my first thought on plugging the skills in.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#12 - 2013-03-02 22:51:19 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Does it remove the skill entirely if it's at level 1 when you lose the rank?

Holy ****, good question. But I don't have the answer because you really shouldn't be flying one with a sub skill at 1... I'd assune though it knocks it down to "injected but 0"

This is correct. You need all the relevant subsystem skills at level 1 to even crawl inside a T3 ship... If you die, it goes back to level 0...and you have train it back up to level 1 before entering the same type of ship.

How did you Veterans start?
Orlacc
#13 - 2013-03-02 23:19:26 UTC
Bottom line is they are a blast (no pun) to run around in...only one I have not tried is Legion.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Narcotics Dealer
G U N D A M
#14 - 2013-03-03 04:22:49 UTC
T3s were made for people who are bad at this game

now u can dishonor boost and nullify thru bubbles until ur hearts content
or cloaky gank with ridiculous stats as its pleases u

just dont die and lose all the isk u had to pay with plex from ur wifes bank account, unlike u she works hard in the real world
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-03-03 05:21:44 UTC
Narcotics Dealer wrote:
T3s were made for people who are bad at this game

now u can dishonor boost and nullify thru bubbles until ur hearts content
or cloaky gank with ridiculous stats as its pleases u

just dont die and lose all the isk u had to pay with plex from ur wifes bank account, unlike u she works hard in the real world

lol ganked one of these days by a t3?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Skorpynekomimi
#16 - 2013-03-03 08:03:12 UTC
Narcotics Dealer wrote:
T3s were made for people who are bad at this game

now u can dishonor boost and nullify thru bubbles until ur hearts content
or cloaky gank with ridiculous stats as its pleases u

just dont die and lose all the isk u had to pay with plex from ur wifes bank account, unlike u she works hard in the real world


This is actually a pretty good summary of what they're good at.

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