Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I commend you for doing wormhole space... it was far too much effort. for my blood (too little profit margins for like 5x the effort of even lowsec)

nullbear tears, best tears.

Move to wormholes and forget your local channel fears.

and this is the main problem.

Eve is all about conflict and wars. We should get ability to hurt other players when we afk.... Let's say boosting your gang from POS when you afk.... Or preventing someone from carebearing when you are sleep or went to shop....

Remove Local: problem solved

If they cant see it they cant whine about it.

That was futile :D

Only person crying and raging in this thread is you, everyone else is just pointing and laughing at you

This has already been done in 2500 systems. It is called W-space. If you don't like local give it a try.


I like how everyone says that if they are afk, they can't hurt you. Along with my answer about local, that answer is obviously simplistic, dont ya think?

Anyway, such is the game, deal with it or station spin. Dock in the station for days on end while afk and give the afk cloaker a reason to exist.

I have a suggestion. Make a specific ship type only good for for scanning down cloaked ships. Make the scan interactive so someone needs to be at the keyboard in order to actively do it. Something like scanning a planet in PI. Make it skill dependent on the players part and the characters part. It should take about 15-20 minutes of active work. While all this is going on, the ship doing the scanning is completely vulnerable to even weak attacks and shows like a beacon to cloaked vessels. If it has shield or armor or even thick plating it interferes with the new scan. A cloaked vessel should also have some means to counter the scan. While scanning you can't even see your overview, so a cloaked player at the keyboard would have very little trouble blowing this ship up. This accomplished the following.

AFK cloaking for hours on end would be dangerous to your ship you'd need to at least pay passive attention to see if someone is scanning for you. You can still go grab a bite to eat or a smoke because it takes longer than that to scan you down, but you need to check things out every little bit.

AFK nullsec ratters need to be active at the keyboard in order to alleviate this threat. Bots would not be able to accomplish the scan so bots can either take your chances or station up.

It would make sure everyone is at least paying half attention to what's going on while they are cloaking, mining or ratting said system and would make it harder for mining/ratting bots or AFK cloakers to operate with impunity.

We wouldn't get the afk cloaky camping tears then...

Balance.

The reason I can't agree with this is that WH space and null space are two different beasts driven by different mechanics. Not to say I dismiss your point entirely. Just that, parking an AFK cloaker in WH space requires different parameters and produces different results than doing it in null space.

To name a few, preparing a cloakie in WH space will require you to put in extra work scanning down, finding, and reasearching whether there are viable targets in the system. In null sec space, you can pretty much park at any known busy hub, no scanning or research required. Simply park and wait.

Results are also different. You can't cyno in friends, or even know how many potential predators are waiting on you to pounce.

In short, an AFK cloaker operating in WH space deals with more unkown variables and erratic risk/reward ratios. For this reason I wouldn't expect to see many AFK cloakers.

Make it so that null sec entry points aren't as predictable and accessible, remove local, and restrict the ability to cyno attack, in other words, the AFK cloaker now has to put in some actual work, and then we can compare the success/failure of AFK cloaking in 0.0/WH.