EVE General Discussion

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I'm new (just about a month of play time) and I've just been jumping around low sec just to see what's there...I really don't have much to lose but it's amazing to see these "PvPers" going out of their way to try and run down unfitted frigates or even shuttles when there's plenty of comparable targets in the region.

I've lost a few ships so far (I'm learning) and when I check the kill stats...that's what some do on the PvP side...simply engage the PvE focused side of the player base for easy kills. I don't even have 2 mil SP and I'll have 5 year players chasing me across the system and camping a station just to get me. I don't get it, especially when I see comments like the above. If High Sec wasn't there, I would have left already.

And you wonder why new people hang in High sec.

I'd like to see a ranking system in EVE for the PvPer's that rate strength of the killed target and show who is really PvPing and just ganking and have that in the sec status or as a title.

Welcome to Eve Van. The players in lowsec who attack you are doing their best to be good Eve players. What the hell does that mean? Well, Eve PVE sucks, however one of the things that makes it interesting is the other players stealing your loot and trying to blow your ship up. Eve is about not making mistakes, because if you do another player is going to come along and take something from you.

Without those players who attack, and steal, and create consequence for mistakes the game is really only a pale shadow of what it can be.

So when you escape by the hair of your teeth and your hands are shaking and your heart is beating think how important it is that those pirate PvPers are there. And perhaps some good natured taunting is in order; sometimes I ask them directions or recommend Caldari made points (they hate that). Avoid smack talk or hate rants, but don't hesitate to interact a bit with the enemy. Part of the reason they try so hard to catch you now is because evasion is much easier than tackling. In a month or two, if you keep practicing, they will not be able to catch you very often.

So play Eve as you see fit, but do not expect or give quarter, the game depends on that.

Indeed. Missions shouldnt be so boring. I think they should be more engaging with randomization and scaling difficulty to the size of player fleet.

PvP is what we make it. PvE is what CCP makes it.

High sec is supposed to be boring.

It is the place where we can (relatively) safely make lots and lots of ISK to buy PLEX to fund our accounts.


Not boring, not lots of ISK made, not PLEX bought, accounts unsub= very, very bad.

Lowsec/nellsec people generally what highsec life to diminish with the hope that players will leave higsec and venture to lowsec/highsec. However, for the players who play EVE primarily for the PvE content, making highsec a miserable experience, half those players will leave EVE, the other half might go find better PvE elsewhere in EVE. Problem is, PvE across EVE is boring. Its too scripted and generally too easy. Theres not much challenge.

At least Incursions gave some challenge. You cant do Vangards solo. You have to rely on others. That is great. That is a step in the right direction for PvE. I want CCP to further expand the Higsec PvE so there us more challenge to do it in highsec.

So, you exist to continue to exist? How depressing.

Stealth, I know what you enjoy better than you know what you enjoy, so you should play the game teh way I want you to play it insteead of the way you want to play it? If so, I can assure you that I know what I enjoy much better than you know what I enjoy. I will be allowed to play the game the way I enjoy playing it, or I will stop playing. You can't force me to play the game, so you can't force me to play it the way you want me to play it.



I exist (the characters) because I (the player) enjoy playing the game, gathering resources, hanging out with friends, effecting markets, building things on occasion, etc.

PLEX only takes about half my income.

However, no income, no PLEX, no existence.

CCP will ensure that high sec remains (relatively) safe so that us carebears that constitute a significant portion of the player base, can continue to make ISK to buy PLEX to fund our accounts.

You don't get that a video game that give you space ships with guns on them have people flying space ships with guns trying to shoot other spaceships?

High Sec is the place for you bro.

I entered this thread with every intention of saying the OP should do something interesting to make hi-sec interesting.

Having read some of the ideas, I agree that the game would be better with 'incursion-light' actions and gate camps from pirate factions and sleepers, including mining in belts etc.

Limiting to 0.5,0.6,0.7 sec will create new routes and islands that could become interesting but low-sec should surely get the same treatment or more, just without concord involved.

I know there's a lot of discussion about this elsewhere, who knows - could happen!

Why not? (Not that I'm advocating it) but seriously... if you are more worried about nullsec because you don;t deal with highsec, why bother?

Let highsec have whatever the hell it wants. It will only make highsec so terrible that people will go to other places in eve, or to a different game altogether. Make it so glutted, and empty of belts and rats they have no coice but to get squeezed out into low and null just to make 4mil an hour. Make mission systems so glutted that TDI kicks in just from L4 missions alone.

Stop trying to make highsec more ideal if you want more for nullsec ffs. Let it get bad! Let it be carebearland! Shove them all into the slaughter chute for processing.

Let them have concord, let them break the mechanics, let them have their candyland.

Who cares who is ganking who in highsec if you're worried about ratting your complacent miners in your system? Who cares if someone who wants to run L3 or L4 missions think your home is blue donut?

It doesn't matter.