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War should follow players.

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0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#1 - 2013-03-01 12:33:08 UTC  |  Edited by: 0Lona 0ltor
A player who leaves a corp to avoid a war should have said war follow them where ever they go for 7 days. CCP implement this fix and stop pandering to World of War Crack space community. War decs are broken fix them.

Another easy fix would simply be to have 7 day timers on leaving and joing corps, 7 days is not a long time to wait to join/leave or form a corp and it would prevent the cowards from abusing war dec mechanics by dodging.

Why is dodging concord bannable but dodging a war is deemed acceptable?
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-03-01 12:38:03 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:
A player who leaves a corp to avoid a war should have said war follow them where ever they go for 7 days. CCP implement this fix and stop pandering to World of War Crack space community. War decs are broken fix them.

Another easy fix would simply be to have 7 day timers on leaving and joing corps, 7 days is not a long time to wait to join/leave or form a corp and it would prevent the cowards from abusing war dec mechanics by dodging.

Why is dodging concord bannable but dodging a war is deemed acceptable?


bbut what happens if the toon leaves the corp one day before the war ends?

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-03-01 12:38:11 UTC
War decs are broken and this suggestion would only break them further.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-03-01 12:39:25 UTC
so...........corporations are people?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#5 - 2013-03-01 12:41:10 UTC
terzho wrote:
so...........corporations are people?

IRL yes Lol

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Citizen of Solitude
Niveuss Nye
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-03-01 12:41:16 UTC
Unneeded builder/PvE playstyle bashing aside, I do agree though that the war should follow you for a short bit, though.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#7 - 2013-03-01 12:41:30 UTC
terzho wrote:
so...........corporations are people?


Yes corporations are a group of people, you are war deccing a group of people.

Glad we cleared that one up early.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#8 - 2013-03-01 12:42:43 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:


but what happens if the toon leaves the corp one day before the war ends?



Then the toon will have the war follow them for 1 day.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-03-01 12:43:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
No.

Joinging a player run corp in high sec should provide something that is of benefit to recieve, as well as suck to lose if you leave the corp.

Being in the NPC corps shouldn't provide you the same level of profitability and performance as people in player run corps. People who want to "be the best" at their proffesion should be joining player run corps to do so.

To be the best miner, builder, or mission runner you should be in a player run corp. Mission running is really the only one that actually provides any real benefit, but the tax isn't a big enough deal to discourage leaving a corp due to war.

Edit: EVE is supposed to reward the player for taking on added challenges, that doesn't just apply to low and null. At the same time players need a way to "opt out" of exposing themselves to added risk, but that doesn't mean that they should be able to opt out AND continue to perform in thier proffession as well as they did in the player run corp.

It's the ability to "do" that is causing people to drop corp, not the wardec.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#10 - 2013-03-01 12:45:57 UTC
Yes.

Because no more mouthing off behind NPC Corps when you get war dec'd.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-03-01 12:46:41 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:
Yes.

Because no more mouthing off behind NPC when you get war dec'd.

It's a good thing CCP doesn't balance the game based off whether or not one group can handle another groups **** talking.
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-03-01 12:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
"**** yes, I got him to bail on his corp. Sucks for him, enjoy hating the game for a while." - Your missed opportunity for epeen.

Instead, you allowed it to be a victory for them.

Hello, hello again.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-03-01 13:19:20 UTC
If you've got a grudge against a specific person, just put a bounty on them or suicide gank them.

The thing is being forced to drop from your player corp should hurt more than it does atm. Losing by fleeing your corp should matter. But there does still need to be a way to opt out of war to prevent being hounded out of the game altogether.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#14 - 2013-03-01 13:26:06 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:
Yes.

Because no more mouthing off behind NPC Corps when you get war dec'd.



Awww poor guy, did the big bad toon in the NPC corp say naughty things about your mother? QQ.
CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2013-03-01 13:32:59 UTC
I'm locking this topic for ranting. If you wish to suggest a change to the war declaration feature, please make a constructive thread in Features and Ideas. Stating your ideas like this in this particular subforum is not acceptable.

CCP Gargant | EVE Universe esports Coordinator
Whitehound
#16 - 2013-03-01 13:39:51 UTC
Another missed opportunity for a thread in Features and Ideas Discussion.

On the topic:

Corporations leaving alliances will take the war with them.

0Lona 0ltor wrote:
Why is dodging concord bannable but dodging a war is deemed acceptable?

Because you already said: it is deemed acceptable.

Wars can only be started by corporations and alliances, which are considered groups of one or more players, whereas a single player is always alone and therefore would make wars into a grieving tool.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Fuji 9000
Sleeping Dogs Awake
#17 - 2013-03-01 13:43:34 UTC
If CCP "fixes" wardecs they will either make them consensual, stealth nerf them into oblivion
or manage to break them again.

just name and shame players that leave corp during a war by recording it in their corp history

and lower the cost of decs to ~20mil