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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-28 20:48:21 UTC
OK, so I have industry level 5, now I looked on the market at a BPO at the materials needed for an item. I purchased the correct number according to the BPO and then the BPO. When I came to manufacture said item, I didn't have enough materials. Anyone know why it gives incorrect values?

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Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-02-28 20:54:35 UTC
Is that an echo I hear?

This is beginning to sound like a serious bug; I'll report it tomorrow if I cba.
Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
#3 - 2013-02-28 21:50:42 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
OK, so I have industry level 5, now I looked on the market at a BPO at the materials needed for an item. I purchased the correct number according to the BPO and then the BPO. When I came to manufacture said item, I didn't have enough materials. Anyone know why it gives incorrect values?


Which BPO was this? Or was it happening with multiple BPO's?
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#4 - 2013-02-28 21:57:48 UTC
I ran into something similar a few months ago. After a while, CCP indicated it was a bug.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2377415#post2377415

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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#5 - 2013-02-28 22:07:57 UTC
Moonlit Raid wrote:
OK, so I have industry level 5, now I looked on the market at a BPO at the materials needed for an item. I purchased the correct number according to the BPO and then the BPO. When I came to manufacture said item, I didn't have enough materials. Anyone know why it gives incorrect values?


Read the descriptions of the Industry skillbooks, your answers are there.

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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#6 - 2013-02-28 22:15:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bridgette d'Iberville
Regardless of the level of your Production Efficiency skill (which is the one that modifies material requirement, OP), the BPO should tell you the exact material requirements (the You vs. Perfect lines). It is apparently not doing that. The only time it should be different is if you're using an installation with a material modifier.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-03-01 08:54:18 UTC
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
I ran into something similar a few months ago. After a while, CCP indicated it was a bug.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2377415#post2377415

^^ This.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#8 - 2013-03-01 10:13:21 UTC
If you want the correct figures, check out the calculator on my site.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#9 - 2013-03-01 16:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
Regardless of the level of your Production Efficiency skill (which is the one that modifies material requirement, OP), the BPO should tell you the exact material requirements (the You vs. Perfect lines). It is apparently not doing that. The only time it should be different is if you're using an installation with a material modifier.

This is actually a very common oversight. Some facilities give a faster build time at the price of increased build costs. Make sure the facilities you are using have 1.0 material modifier.

I believe there is also a bug with the BPO's and BPC's for all the ships that have had extra material added in the teiricide changes.

The added materials are grouped together with the normal materials in the listing on the BPO. This seems to cause them to be affected by the ME levels of the BPC or BPO. But when trying to build the item the materials are then separated into normal and extra materials, and the extra material then do not seem to be affected by the ME level of the BP, even though the BP shows a material requirement as if the extra materials WERE reduced by the ME level.