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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#121 - 2013-02-28 18:30:51 UTC
I do not greatly care if NETG's intentions are entirely honest or a prelude to a scam.

I just find it mildly irritating that it's done badly.

There are plenty of examples of EVE businesses handled with skill, professionalism and drive... Somer, EOH, RF, One Stop etc

There are still more examples of EVE businesses that at least show something positive. Indeed many of the past failures at least publicly demonstrated the potential to achieve something prior to their collapse... EIB, EBANK, DBANK, ZZZ.

And we've seen many great scams over the years, assuming that you don't reject their qualities for some reason.

But this, whatever it is, isn't even a good troll.

May I ask that if you are going to maintain a presence in MD that you at least put a little more effort in to it?
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#122 - 2013-02-28 21:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Bad Bobby wrote:
I do not greatly care if NETG's intentions are entirely honest or a prelude to a scam.

I just find it mildly irritating that it's done badly.

There are plenty of examples of EVE businesses handled with skill, professionalism and drive... Somer, EOH, RF, One Stop etc

There are still more examples of EVE businesses that at least show something positive. Indeed many of the past failures at least publicly demonstrated the potential to achieve something prior to their collapse... EIB, EBANK, DBANK, ZZZ.

And we've seen many great scams over the years, assuming that you don't reject their qualities for some reason.

But this, whatever it is, isn't even a good troll.

May I ask that if you are going to maintain a presence in MD that you at least put a little more effort in to it?


I understand that we are not operating to the MD standard, but we feel it is necessary to protect sensitive information that is crucial to running a successful operation. We have investors to pay.

It takes a lot of effort to get trolled for 7 pages, and many more to come.


Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#123 - 2013-02-28 21:57:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Tom Hagen wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:


Tom what are you doing


Just being truthful about how things have played out. While I still have my thoughts on the general viability of NETG and would not invest un-collateralized in any of their bonds, the truth is that they did answer to my mail and that they did offer collateral - and things should be put right I think. Oops I can admit an error (Good thing I make them so rarely Cool )

On the note of the collateral - it was a valid collateral, but not one which I am interested at holding currently, hence I am also not interested currently to invest into the collateralized bond-offering




Tom,

Thank you again for setting things straight, we all make mistakes. No shame in that. It's unfortunate that the many others who intensionally post false statements in our thread refuse to correct them.

We hope to do business with you in the future,

Ethan

Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#124 - 2013-02-28 21:58:25 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
I understand that we are not operating to the MD standard, but we feel it is necessary to protect sensitive information that is crucial to running a successful operation. We have investors to pay.

So you continue to show nothing to the public other than a questionable attitude. I hope there is some justification for choosing this path beyond what you have said, because on the surface it appears to be stubborn foolishness.

You can take it from a person who has had success on both sides of the coin, both as a legitimate EVE businessman and as a scammer, that good public relations and the correct management of your audience makes everything better.

It is far easier to generate a profit, both honest and otherwise, with a significant portion of the community on your side. If you play it right the community does most of the work for you, for free.

Ethan Freeman wrote:
It takes a lot of effort to get trolled for 7 pages, any many more to come.

You have made that bed for yourself.

Also it takes considerably less effort not to be trolled than to be trolled.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#125 - 2013-02-28 22:15:20 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
I understand that we are not operating to the MD standard, but we feel it is necessary to protect sensitive information that is crucial to running a successful operation. We have investors to pay.

So you continue to show nothing to the public other than a questionable attitude. I hope there is some justification for choosing this path beyond what you have said, because on the surface it appears to be stubborn foolishness.

You can take it from a person who has had success on both sides of the coin, both as a legitimate EVE businessman and as a scammer, that good public relations and the correct management of your audience makes everything better.

It is far easier to generate a profit, both honest and otherwise, with a significant portion of the community on your side. If you play it right the community does most of the work for you, for free.

Ethan Freeman wrote:
It takes a lot of effort to get trolled for 7 pages, any many more to come.

You have made that bed for yourself.

Also it takes considerably less effort not to be trolled than to be trolled.


We do not do business with or talk to scammers. I would appreciate it if you would stop posting in our thread.


Thank you