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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#121 - 2013-02-28 21:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
From what I've heard, from people who have access to Serenity, the server is throttled. More subscribers may not mean a higher PCU, because the server may not allow for more.
That would be part of an explanation, if true, but the active population on SR has gone down if you look at the graphs. That's why I'm talking about a drastic change in player behaviour (which would be even more drastic if it's actually throttled): a 50% increase in players (from the last time we tried to guess this) have led to a 20% decrease in activity. That would mean players have responded to more people — i.e. more world content — by halving their active play time. Ugh

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Do we have a chart for TQ's server activity from the month of december to now?
You can just look at EVEOffline, or compare the 2012 and the the 2013 numbers I've collected if you want something with all the noise filtered out.

For a quick reference, compare the Friday (blue) and Sunday (red) lines before and after Retribution. Before, Sundays — consistently the highest-populated day of the week — struggled somewhere between 45k and 50k. Afterwards, Fridays — normally the least-populated day of the week — do the same, but much closer to the 50k line. That's a consistent ~20% increase right there. If this has spilled over into (re)activated accounts, that would mean an increase from 350k:ish to 420k:ish (again, assuming the normal player behaviour that has pretty consistently made PCUs and subs covariate for as long back as I have seen official numbers).
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#122 - 2013-02-28 21:05:26 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Tippia wrote:
If this has spilled over into (re)activated accounts, that would mean an increase from 350k:ish to 420k:ish (again, assuming the normal player behaviour that has pretty consistently made PCUs and subs covariate for as long back as I have seen official numbers).
Anecdote: My corp has seen a recent surge in activity - both from 'active'* members, and re-subs.

Long stretch from one small-ish corp to all of EVE, but the timing coincide nicely.



*Active in that they had a current sub, albeit hadn't logged in recently.

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Gogela
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#123 - 2013-02-28 21:20:41 UTC
Just posting my congrats to CCP. o7

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#124 - 2013-02-28 21:28:08 UTC
Where do I find the graphs for SR?

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#125 - 2013-02-28 21:30:32 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Where do I find the graphs for SR?

http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity
Not nearly as neat, but the downtrend ever since the relaunch is pretty obvious anyway.
Jack bubu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#126 - 2013-02-28 21:33:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Where do I find the graphs for SR?

http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity
Not nearly as neat, but the downtrend ever since the relaunch is pretty obvious anyway.

well ofcourse, the huge spike is due to serenity being F2P for a while and now that it switched back to subscriptions its expected that it drops (just the question where it stops)
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2013-02-28 23:21:11 UTC
Huh?

500,000 Subscribers?

Well, gotta give creds when due.

Gratz CCP, that's definitely Impressive.




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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#128 - 2013-02-28 23:31:02 UTC
every day there is mm 50k online. so 1/10 people have more accounts. Thats nice to see in wow there is more like 1/5.
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#129 - 2013-02-28 23:46:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#130 - 2013-03-01 00:02:21 UTC
Hm, there are maybe 400,000 subscriptions to TQ, and the typical peak these days is 60,000 logged in at one time. close to 1 in 7. I wonder what would happen to the servers if everyone was logged in at the same time..... 7 times as much traffic......

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Kalenn Istarion
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2013-03-01 01:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalenn Istarion
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Not sure how many subs are in China, but lets assume all these numbers are on the same server. So there are 500K accounts and ~50K players online every day. This means each of us would have around 10 account. Man... this is serious boting :|


... erm, no.

~50-55k is the PEAK players online... that's a different subset of people at any given time of day. I suspect weekdays they would see something like 150-200k unique accounts log in daily, with something like up to 400k unique accounts over a weekend where the more casual (ie 1 day a week) players can show up.

EDIT: I saw this one early in the thread.... now that I've gone further I just have to throw my hands up. 55k is the peak concurrency, not total users logging in over a 24 hour period.

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dark heartt
#132 - 2013-03-01 03:46:57 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
fukier wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:


I call BS. Sorry.

Peak login is at what, 55-60k on TQ?

500K subs?

Yes it includes China but damn.


its called time zones... shesh... not everyone plays 23/7


I wont waste my time explaining why that's an illogical argument.

Let's just wait for CCP to release the figures...which they won't do.

I'd also like to know the percentage of those accounts that are alts. Should be easy as I recall they do ask for our address when we sign up.



Just to be clear, subs has nothing to do with the number of people logged in. You can be a bitter vet and have a subbed account and only ever log in to change skill training when you need to or to blap a cap ship with your titan. Or you could only be able to play on weekends, or one day a week, or once a month or hell once a year. But a subbed account is an active paid account so it's not that hard to believe they have 500k active accounts.

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Anonymously Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#133 - 2013-03-01 04:39:20 UTC
It really does not matter how many people are actually playing the game after a certain number. Has anyone ever thought to themselves that they are not meeting or seeing enough people in EVE? If there were 10.5 BILLION actual players and online at the same time...you would only know or conversate with a very small percentage of those individuals. SORT OF LIKE REAL LIFE.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#134 - 2013-03-01 07:58:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Where do I find the graphs for SR?

http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity
Not nearly as neat, but the downtrend ever since the relaunch is pretty obvious anyway.


The pork is in the January data, from 14k-ish to less than 8k-ish weekly average PCU.

Reading The Mittani's insights to the Chinese server, I wonder wether it's a place anyone would stay subbed for long, even if that someone is a Chinese player. The main activity in Serenity appears to be nullsec NPC grinding to feed RMT for cartel leaders (sellers) and powerplayers (buyers). The RMT guys, nicknamed the "KFC" because they held a meeting in a Kentucky Fried Chicken and paid with their RMT profits, the KFC, say, they agreed to split nullsec and don't war each other, and new players are recruited upon arrival and then they don't switch loyalties for cultural reasons.

So essentially in Serenity you're bound to learn to grind NPCs to pay for the KFC's fun. The whole RMT business is paid upon by freaks who buy titans in their spare time, and with the current PCU trend it's easy to foresee that a point will come when Serenity returns to the business model it had in the old times: massive bot mining and harrassment of anyone not grinding nullsec NPCs. Back then, every week, nullsec alliances would launch the "harvest" and kill everyone not in a nullsec alliance to force "loners" into submission...

But then, having ways so any player can play EVE in China and he can't be harrassed into submission to the RMT cartels would not be a WiSe move... Blink
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#135 - 2013-03-01 11:09:34 UTC
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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2013-03-01 13:06:50 UTC
Grats on about 7.5 mil/month just from subs!

Unless you charge more for the Chinese.

I would.

Great Firewall my ass.

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Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2013-03-01 13:30:47 UTC
MilitantMan wrote:
cool, but its a shame most of its not on TQ and they most all alts.


An alt is a paying account, thus exactly as good as another customer.

Keeping track of different people paying for the game instead of active accounts makes no sense.

Also, there are people (like me) who only have one account.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-03-01 14:35:21 UTC
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Santo Trafficante
Kira Inc.
#139 - 2013-03-01 14:55:14 UTC
YO..... stop caring of this and that and why this and not that, just celebrate grab a prostitute give her sum plexes and make her subscribe(lolololol dafuq yo) and hopefuly CCP will keep us stuck full with fresh content and the promised cyber s...( joky joky) :D:D:D

Anyways happy 500k snitches!!!!!!!11111111111@@@@@
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#140 - 2013-03-01 15:11:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Darius Brinn wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
cool, but its a shame most of its not on TQ and they most all alts.


An alt is a paying account, thus exactly as good as another customer.

Keeping track of different people paying for the game instead of active accounts makes no sense.

Also, there are people (like me) who only have one account.


Well actually keeping track as closely as possible of how many individual people are playing (as opposed to just how many accounts) has value for other reasons.

CCP recently spoke about working hard to impliment better metrics in this area (CSM notes I believe).

However, you are quite correct, in this case it is not pertinent.

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