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Xenuria - CSM 8

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2013-02-22 23:11:35 UTC
it is interesting that a campaign that is supposedly "unapologetic-ally honest" [sic] and "brutally honest" has said absolutely nothing of substance that could possibly be verified in any way, and is instead focused solely on deflection and evasion while saying nothing

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Xenuria
#62 - 2013-02-22 23:14:47 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
it is interesting that a campaign that is supposedly "unapologetic-ally honest" [sic] and "brutally honest" has said absolutely nothing of substance that could possibly be verified in any way, and is instead focused solely on deflection and evasion while saying nothing


That's your opinion man.
I am not the one who is doing the deflecting. If you have an actual question about my campaign then please ask it.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-02-22 23:19:42 UTC
i would like to note that failure to include any material fact or lying about or misrepresenting any material fact (including by refusing to discuss it) would reflect extremely poorly on a campaign supposedly based on being unapologetic-ally and brutally honest

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Xenuria
#64 - 2013-02-23 18:09:00 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
yeah see that's the sort of deceit and lack of forthrightness that i am discussing

major events in your past shed light on you as a person and as a candidate. you are unwilling to discuss them - or anything else - most likely because you know that anything honest you say would reflect poorly on you because you are a bad and broken person

i am giving you a chance to attempt to discuss these events in your past to demonstrate your claimed honesty actually exists, yet while you proclaim to the skies how honest you are you refuse every chance given to you to demonstrate it

it is relatively easy to draw the necessary conclusion



Alright, I think you are having considerable difficulty understand what I am saying to you.
I already discussed the whole test alliance trollercoaster. Not once, but several times in several different threads. I am not going to derail this thread just because a bunch of haters can't find anything real to attack my credibility with. If you have any questions about my campaign that actually involve or relate to eve online then please ask them.

As a potential voter and a member of TEST, I feel that I ought to know more about this, but I'm too young to have been around for the relevant threads. Considering that this thread should certainly deal with your personality and your past, perhaps you could go over it again or at the very least provide links or quotes from the threads where you've discussed it before.




Ok, fine...

I was invited to join TEST under the pretense that I troll and rustle as many jimmies as possible. When I got into the mumble the channel went from having maybe 30 people in it to several hundred. I told everybody I was a super secret internet super hero and that I worked with Chris Hansen. The only thing I linked in mumble was the IP and port number for a mumble server that some of my friends hang out on. I told everybody in the test mumble that if they had any interest in meeting seriously messed up people with a diverse set or proclivities that they should just join that mumble. It was some time after this that I claimed I was actually in fact from 9GAG and that 9gag was legion. I was banned almost immediately after that. I was then blacklisted from test and kicked out.

The second time I joined test it was under the pretense that I would be allowed to stay as long as I was tactful and diplomatic in my conversations, being careful to avoid being provocative in any way. This was going well for awhile, any antagonistic remarks or attempts at starting an argument were effortlessly defused by what I would call my "safe mode" social blueprint. I was planning on seeding the market where test was deployed because dirk said it would be a good way to prove my worth.
Then seemingly out of nowhere I was kicked out. I am told montolio was behind this and when asked he made up some bs story about how a spy got director roles and kicked me out.

After that I went back to join the gallente militia and spend time with people that actually appreciated my hyper-vigilance and attention to detail.
Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-02-24 00:44:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Nurgle
I 'm trying to take you serious. But then I remember that video with your cat.

edit; http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zssJsY1VN7A <-- This one.
Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-02-25 00:38:08 UTC
Could you be more obvious Overlord Telkin Big smile

I fully agree though. This guy should not even be considered for CSM.
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#67 - 2013-02-26 18:08:25 UTC
OK,

I cleaned up a couple of posts.

I want to remind everyone of a 5 things:

1. Keep it civil.
2. No personal attacks.
3. Try not to be uncivil.
4. No personal attacks.
5. Keep it civil.

Discussing the merits or pitfalls of a particular candidate is fine. Talking about their (apparent) disability, and using that as a way to make fun of them or others is not. Talking about harming another player, even indirectly is not.


Just a reminder in case you did not catch the rules above. Keep it civil.

ISD Cura Ursus

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#68 - 2013-02-26 19:32:32 UTC
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
OK,

I cleaned up a couple of posts.

I want to remind everyone of a 5 things:

1. Keep it civil.
2. No personal attacks.
3. Try not to be uncivil.
4. No personal attacks.
5. Keep it civil.

Discussing the merits or pitfalls of a particular candidate is fine. Talking about their (apparent) disability, and using that as a way to make fun of them or others is not. Talking about harming another player, even indirectly is not.


Just a reminder in case you did not catch the rules above. Keep it civil.


Also I'm agreeing with this. We can dismantle Xenuria's campaign without lowering ourselves to making fun of their disability or gender non-compliance.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Sidrat Flush
KarmaFleet
#69 - 2013-02-26 19:36:51 UTC
You're evasive. You want specifics which seems rightly or wrongly to suggest that theres multiple thigs you dont really want to make public so you hope most gets stepped aside.

I wish CSM candidates could be pre screened before making public announcements about standing for CSM but then who would do that?

Be honest list everything enough of being specific - you're the vaguest in the thread.

I'm also glad to say I dont know what 9gag is because if even Test doesn't tolerate it it cant be that good and os perhaps even too and for Test themselves.

Being kicked from the same alliance twice is rarely a good sign for any one even high sec corps but the CSM yikes!

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.

Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#70 - 2013-02-26 21:06:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Sidrat Flush wrote:
I'm also glad to say I dont know what 9gag is because if even Test doesn't tolerate it it cant be that good and os perhaps even too and for Test themselves.

9gag users are what redditors would call pubbies if they used that word.
Xenuria
#71 - 2013-02-27 01:48:38 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Sidrat Flush wrote:
I'm also glad to say I dont know what 9gag is because if even Test doesn't tolerate it it cant be that good and os perhaps even too and for Test themselves.

9gag users are what redditors would call pubbies if they used that word.



Yeah, the first time I was in test the whole point was to make people confused and unjustifiably upset. It was an elaborate troll. Hence the statement about working with chris hansen and being in the "9gag army", if the statement "9gag is legion" wasn't enough to cue you into the satirical nature of the encounter then nothing will.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#72 - 2013-02-27 05:13:23 UTC
I have removed several off topic posts. If you wish to file a complaint against ISD, I direct you to use the petition system and it will be reviewed there by CCP. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Endeavour Starfleet
#73 - 2013-02-27 07:11:21 UTC
Hello there!

I would like to name several situations that I feel are detrimental to the game. Give a solution and ask you for your stance on both. I do need answers to all the situations for my vote(s)

POS those three letters bring nightmares to just about anyone having the misfortune of having to operate one. The solution in the long term is obviously modular POS. Yet CCP seems to be backpedaling on implementing this despite the MANY benefits. What is your stance on the possibility of a near term bandage of a form of player POS that is only designed to be the equilivant of a Secure Container for ships until modular POS is ready?

Overpowered passive cloaking. It is now to the point where people are now beyond AFK cloaking but running Twitch.tv streams of enemy stations and systems! Would you support balancing cloaking to punish those who go AFK (Eventually able to be scanned down for decloak) while maintaining the benefits to people actively cloaking (Remaining at their keyboard)

Lack of Ring Mining. Again with the CCP backpedaling despite the many benefits for nullsec and other areas for the game. What is your stand on the crap that is moon mining?

The silly push by some in the community to end or delay "Local" or any effective means for those in a nullsec system to determine if a hostile or unknown is in system in them. This obviously needs no solution but I want your thoughts.

The horrible state of missions in hisec. The solution in my opinion is a complete rewrite to allow for a more incursion like approach that rewards those who want to train up logistic frigs and cruisers or be a specific role in a fleet. Also providing a way for newer players to experience group play in EVE.

Incursion suckage. With the nerfs to Incursions fleets have slowed to a trickle and it was sad to see CCP willing to spend more development time nerfing entire expansions instead of doing what was right being making other aspects of EVE better. Modular POS and Ring mining need dev time sooner so I will admit this ought to be looked at later however I wanted to get your views on them and have this to be some context to the next aspect of Logi.

Logi suckage. Logis do not have the tools to do their job. They need to be able to tell who is locked and taking damage and in large fleets the watchlist can't handle that leading to dependence on broadcasts that most of EVE seems to not know or refuse to use right. Look at any average HQ incursion fleet where people don't broadcast right stressing out logi or in fleet fights where following FCs orders makes it harder to broadcast properly. A solution is a logi only screen that is completely configurable to show who is taking the most DPS and who has the most locks in fleet.

Logi Suckage #2 Reps don't get you on mails? Wut? Solution obviously is to have repping those in fleet land you on killmails generated from fleet.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2013-02-27 08:00:51 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
My body isn't ready. Oh god...

i thought we were waiting on posting those perticular xenuria convos

You've never seen his "Xenuria Rising" video? Has nothing to do with the other... allegations.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#75 - 2013-02-27 15:27:37 UTC
I have deleted repeated trolling, personal attacks, and off topic posts from this thread. Do not do this. I will delete the posts and appropriate moderation action will be taken.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2013-02-27 18:03:30 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have deleted repeated trolling, personal attacks, and off topic posts from this thread. Do not do this. I will delete the posts and appropriate moderation action will be taken.

I think you've ended up deleting things that are actually relevant to his candidacy for CSM. If there are allegations regarding certain actions he's taken in the past we have a right to know and discuss them here. Anything else would be patently dishonest.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Xenuria
#77 - 2013-02-27 19:28:42 UTC


POS those three letters bring nightmares to just about anyone having the misfortune of having to operate one. The solution in the long term is obviously modular POS. Yet CCP seems to be backpedaling on implementing this despite the MANY benefits. What is your stance on the possibility of a near term bandage of a form of player POS that is only designed to be the equilivant of a Secure Container for ships until modular POS is ready?

Here is the biggest problem I see with any measure of POD fixing. There is a difference between a conceptual idea of what would fix something and the actual "effort" and "work" that would need to go into making that happen, assuming it even CAN happen with the way the current foundation is at any point in time. More specifically, I am saying that I understand why CCP is hesitant to jump into what would be a very cold pool. If it were something really easy and point blank simple then they probably would have implemented it by now. I don't know what goes on behind the curtain so all I really can say is what I actually know to be true. In terms of a "near term" bandage, I think putting bandaids on problems often leads to overlooking the problem in the future ultimately resulting in it taking much longer for the root problem to be solved properly.

Overpowered passive cloaking. It is now to the point where people are now beyond AFK cloaking but running Twitch.tv streams of enemy stations and systems! Would you support balancing cloaking to punish those who go AFK (Eventually able to be scanned down for decloak) while maintaining the benefits to people actively cloaking (Remaining at their keyboard)


I think I am going to have to disagree with you on this one but that does not mean I am not completely open to alternative arguments. Cloaking by design is supposed to make you invisible and to that end, very hard to find. I feel like people using this game-play mechanic to do Recon and even take things as far as streaming the locations of enemy fleets or gatherings is natural. I would argue that this level of sneaky, intelligence gathering is part of the meta game that makes EVE Online persist into other areas of our lives even after we have closed the game client for the day. The saturation of streams and other forms of observation of ingame content is only going to draw MORE attention to EVE Online. This is a positive not a negative.

Lack of Ring Mining. Again with the CCP backpedaling despite the many benefits for nullsec and other areas for the game. What is your stand on the crap that is moon mining?


Honestly, I don't know a great deal about moon mining. I have seen people express discontent and frustration with the subject matter and if I were elected and nobody else on that CSM was paying attention too or focusing on moon mining, then at that point I would spend the time researching it inside and out so that I could cover the gap in representation.

The silly push by some in the community to end or delay "Local" or any effective means for those in a nullsec system to determine if a hostile or unknown is in system in them. This obviously needs no solution but I want your thoughts.

I think something with an effect as massive as altering the way local chat works is not to be played around with on a whim.
CCP has access to a ridiculous amount of statistics and metrics with regards to how players interact with the game world. Without really knowing any of that right now, it's hard for me or ANYBODY to say with certainty what the long term effects of changing local would be.


The horrible state of missions in hisec. The solution in my opinion is a complete rewrite to allow for a more incursion like approach that rewards those who want to train up logistic frigs and cruisers or be a specific role in a fleet. Also providing a way for newer players to experience group play in EVE.

One of my primary focuses is Risk vs Reward and that no doubt extends to missions. There are many missions that are either out of date or configured in such a way that their difficulty is not proportional to their reward. Missions need attention for sure. I don't know about an incursion style but I do think a system should be implemented that rewards players based on more than what they are currently. Maybe, a mission has rats that don't need to be killed in order to finish it but killing said rats results in a slightly higher standing or lp or isk, etc. There are a multitude of ways in which missions could be made exponentially more diverse and unique even after doing the same one several times.

Incursion suckage. With the nerfs to Incursions fleets have slowed to a trickle and it was sad to see CCP willing to spend more development time nerfing entire expansions instead of doing what was right being making other aspects of EVE better. Modular POS and Ring mining need dev time sooner so I will admit this ought to be looked at later however I wanted to get your views on them and have this to be some context to the next aspect of Logi.

I actually support the so called nerf to incursions. In my opinion there was a huge isk faucet. CCP didn't nerf incursions simply because they felt like people were making to much isk. They actually have alot of data on their end that tells them when something is unstable or wonky.

Continued on next post.

Xenuria
#78 - 2013-02-27 19:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Logi suckage. Logis do not have the tools to do their job. They need to be able to tell who is locked and taking damage and in large fleets the watchlist can't handle that leading to dependence on broadcasts that most of EVE seems to not know or refuse to use right. Look at any average HQ incursion fleet where people don't broadcast right stressing out logi or in fleet fights where following FCs orders makes it harder to broadcast properly. A solution is a logi only screen that is completely configurable to show who is taking the most DPS and who has the most locks in fleet.


I can't argue with you there. I could make the point that something like what you describe would be low priority compared to all the other stuff.


Logi Suckage #2 Reps don't get you on mails? Wut? Solution obviously is to have repping those in fleet land you on killmails generated from fleet.


I have to agree with you.


Note: I very much appreciate you asking these questions. It gives me an opportunity to articulate in a specific manner, my platform.
Endeavour Starfleet
#79 - 2013-02-27 19:36:45 UTC
I thank you for your answers. However because you support incursion nerfs and because you do seem to not see AFK Cloaking streaming as clear evidence of how overpowered it is. I am afraid I can't support you in the upcoming election.

If you do happen to get in tho. I hope you will be very tough on CCP when it comes to POS and Moons. CCP continues to give half answers and other delaying actions when it comes to these badly needed changes in my opinion and I think part of that is due to how weak CSM 7 was.
Xenuria
#80 - 2013-02-28 18:05:57 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I thank you for your answers. However because you support incursion nerfs and because you do seem to not see AFK Cloaking streaming as clear evidence of how overpowered it is. I am afraid I can't support you in the upcoming election.

If you do happen to get in tho. I hope you will be very tough on CCP when it comes to POS and Moons. CCP continues to give half answers and other delaying actions when it comes to these badly needed changes in my opinion and I think part of that is due to how weak CSM 7 was.

I didn't say that I support all incursion nerfs across the board, now did I? I only made the point that for CCP to nerf something at that level they always have a reason.

Your perception of how "overpowered" Afk Cloak Streaming is, is subjective and isn't entirely relevant to CCP. If CCP starts altering gameplay based solely on things that happen OUTSIDE of the eve client then we are all going to have a really bad time.

Let me give you an example.


Example: The player base develops a means to calculate the best possible amount of time to spend mining in a dangerous location and when to leave. This results in a portion of the player base making good isk for much lower RISK than the players that don't use this formula. Then somebody like you comes along as says that Mining is OVER POWERED, BECAUSE "some" people have found a OUT OF GAME means of reducing their risk and in turn having less risk for the same isk as other players in the similar situation.

According to your logic, CCP should NERF mining or alter it in a way to compensate for the portion of players that have somehow calculated the best amount of time to spend mining before switching to a different system. Think about that... That's some Blizzard bs right there. That kind of reasoning is why so many people are unsubscribing from world of warcraft and coming over to eve online. Nerfing a mechanic for the singular reason that players have found a way to be better at it without breaking the rules is BAD/Blizzard-esk, and it's worse when the way they are better at it doesn't even happen inside the game client. In this hypothetical it's some spreadsheet that tells them when on average they should leave a system to statistically lower the amount of loses they experience over time.