Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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On the topic:

I would not say no to a reduction down to 12h or 8h, but no timer at all is pretty much the same as turning high-sec into null-sec for all non-NPC corporations and without the benefits of living in null-sec.

1) spots freighter on gate
2) scans freighter
3) freighter full of multibillion goo\assets
4) declare war
5) pop freighter
6) drop war
7) scoop loots and hide until war has passed
8) roll around in isk

Even I think that's a bad idea

Change war to next dt?
I could see that being a workable solution.

DT is 4:00-4:30 AM for me. So, I go to bed at peace. I wake up 6 hours later to find myself at war, with no time to move stuff around or in any other way prepare for war? Really?

Dont fly what you cant lose?
No I agree that would suck.
The issue is that 24 hrs means a pos is gone goodies are holed up in station and such.
The reason why a war is started vanish.
If you shorten it to much you end up with the issue mentioned above of freighter "ganking".
But really after having done wars 24 hrs is to long, anything under an hour is to short.

If your war is to kill the pos...

Declare war. Camp pos with alpha nados, gank when the pos is going down. If done, you even get to scoup the pos.

As for the goodies... What goodies? Ships will be moved when the pos is attached or during reinforce timer. Bpos are usually in a station. Bpcs... Have little real value. Manufacturing, better to gank their ships hauling to market.

The main reason to attack a pos is to disrupt the corp, which you did when you forced them to take it down, or to claim the moon, which you can when they take the pos down.


And given eve is multi-timezone, you have to give enough time so that players who go to sleep/work before a wardec arrives have a fair time to react.

As for wars following, you have to be very careful. If only the individual is followed, that may work. For example, i drop RvB, for a week blues could still attack me. That kind of works, but in this case people often drop RvB for a week to make isk, then come back. They would have to drop for 2 weeks, which would be annoying. Still, workable.

What you can't do is create another space aids epidemic. If the war transfers to a new corp, well... Too much potential for griefing.

Well, keep in mind what they're really after is that when Germany declares war on France, all the non-combatants are trapped in France and forced to be shot at whether they were capable of fleeing or not.

The problem is not the "Drop corp" mechanic - CCP has flat out said that is intended behavior. The problem is the target selection process.

CCP makes money on userbase subscriptions and (probably to a much lesser degree) microtransactions. A company with that business model won't do something that will decimate their paying subscriber base. Just ask Netflix how many subscribers they lost (albeit temporarily) over their ham-fisted gimmicks they tried last year.

Doing something inane like alienating a large portion of the paying subscriber base won't be suicide for CCP, but they're not ABOUT to do something to harm that income stream give the milk-toast response to DUST.

Other games. And then you cannot shoot them. And thats really the point

Case 1. People use game mechanics to avoid war. Result: You cannot shoot them.

Case 2. You get the game mechanics changed to no one can avoid war. Result: They leave Eve and you cannot shoot them.

Both cases result in you not being able to shoot them. So why do case #2? To ruin CCP's bottom line?

The 24 hour warning period is fine. I think the issue of 'all or nothing' is the problem.