Market Discussions

For the last many, many months, it used to be perfectly possible to get to Jita, and conduct business there, even on Sunday evenings, with no noticable lag.

Then the right-click-menu issue popped up (as discussed in the New Players forum.

Now I'm often denied access to Jita, either via the stargate (almost always the one from Perimter) or via log-in where I'm offered the opportunity to teleport myself and the ship I happen to be in to a neighbouring system. Even though the stuff I want to sell or buy is in Jita.

What happened? Are there just more people in Jita than there used to be? Or did CCP lower the population cap?

PushX's channel claims CCP lowered the cap from 2300 to 2000 recently. It certainly appears to be 2000 now, although I have no recollection of local user stats from last year.

I'm trying to figure out why the "super awesome Jita server" can't handle routing text chatting and market updates to under 100k clients. It's not like there's a lot of ship activity going on.

Have you been to the Jita 4-4 CNAP undock?


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Forge#jumps24

It is not Jita 4-4 specifically. Although that is where the problem is, it is the load on the node, i.e. the entire Jita system, that causes lag. if Jita 4-4 is lagging, the whole node is lagging. Even if the load is originating at Jita 4-4.

For example lets consider what happens on other nodes. Normally in EVE there are several systems on a Node. Jita is the only system as far as I know that has its own node. When there is a big battle in null sec, it is not just that system that lags, but every system that shares that node. This is how you can experience TiDi or lag in an empty system. Some other system sharing that node has exceeded mas activity.

The super node they built for Jita was needed to handle the high traffic. I do not know why it has been dropping into TiDi so much lately, I do not see a huge increase in activity. Possibly it is due to some changes in recent updates that may have made the sever load in Jita more complex. They have made a few new adjustments to the ui. I assume it is a bug they will fix as soon as they figure out exactly what broke. Trouble shooting things like this can often be like looking for a needle in a hay stack. You know it is there, it will even occasionally prick you, but it is still very hard to find.

So you are the one who stole everyone's Stack, and now try to say they never really existed.

I want my stack back.

There has to be a Stack in EVE...

Where do you think the bugs come from...

And stop trying to hack the sever causing lag in Jita

The cap was 2300 before Retribution 1.1. After it was deployed the cap was dropped to 2000. Recently its been raised to 2170. Im guessing as CCP gains confidence in the new patch and maybe kills bugs, it will be raised higher.

And the peak concurrent user count has been creeping up. Its gotten to within 4000 of the record. So more people in Jita is to be expected.

Cap seems to be 2200 when I have one alt in system and another tries to get in. Needs to be raised to 3K but that of course needs more hardware to be dedicated to jita

The jita node is dynamic.
It has all the spare capacity of tranquility on a normal day.
The N3 vs solar war is currently at a decisive fase meaning there are block level battles
As in 800 vs 900 with 600 visitors.
This means certain nulsec systems need massive reinforcements.
Ccp can only do this at downtime. Meaning if a massive fleet battle is imminent in nulsec. Jita will have a lower cap for a day

I hope this is explanation simple and clear enough for the forums

This is pretty dumb.

At any given time at least 80% of Jita pilots are docked.

If non-reinforced nodes can handle 1000+ pilot battles at 10% tidi why can't perma-reinforced Jita node handle 10.000 people (8000 docked) at 10% tidi? Keeping in mind that market operations are regional and not local.

**** that limit. Up it to 5k and let tidi sort it out.