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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-02-28 13:07:44 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network.


That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule).

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#42 - 2013-02-28 13:09:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
dexington wrote:

Guess you never tried rolling on splinters in naxxramas, bindings in molten core or the phoenix in tempest keep... you should try playing an mmo where you can't just plex back what you loose.


Hehe I was there for all of them. Plus the STR + AGI super rare MC ring also called "guild breaker" because the 2 times a year it'd drop, it was claimed by half the guild, each had accumulating 1 trillion DKP to buy it. Let's say that the loot losers would not take it nicely.

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-02-28 13:30:01 UTC
500k subscribers (individual humans), or 500k paid accounts? There's QUITE a bit of difference between the two when it comes to EVE. Not in terms of income CCP gets from subs, but from the standpoint of the size and quality of game's actual population.

For most MMOs, this question is meaningless, as 95%+ of the player base only has one account. Very few would have two. But in in this game, it's not uncommon to have 3-6 accounts, it's kinda important.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#44 - 2013-02-28 13:43:49 UTC
Those are really good news! When will CCP start developing WiS now that they're cashing in all that extra money? Twisted
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-02-28 13:45:39 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:

For most MMOs, this question is meaningless, as 95%+ of the player base only has one account. Very few would have two. But in in this game, it's not uncommon to have 3-6 accounts, it's kinda important.


Does anyone have survey numbers, or will we have to resort to anecdotes and hearsay?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#46 - 2013-02-28 13:50:18 UTC
Takseen wrote:
Does anyone have survey numbers, or will we have to resort to anecdotes and hearsay?
Surveys ask about it, but I have never seen any numbers on it being published. The best guesstimates anyone has been able to offer is ~2 accounts per person, but that was eons ago and good luck not just finding the thread, but finding any of the data that is still relevant today.


And anyway, it doesn't make much difference. They've always counted accounts, with PCUs as a secondary measure of activity. Both are up. You'd have to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to turn it into something bad. Smile
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-02-28 13:51:49 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
500k subscribers (individual humans), or 500k paid accounts? There's QUITE a bit of difference between the two when it comes to EVE. Not in terms of income CCP gets from subs, but from the standpoint of the size and quality of game's actual population.


Not uncommon to to have in between 10 and 100 accounts, should we say.

Indeed, while the top 500K number is a good number, and props for this, I'd be interested to know the % of each type of player from said number.

% of single account, double, 1 to 5, 5 to 10, 10 to 30, 30 to 70 and above. This would be interesting to know.

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illirdor
Upper Class Goat
#48 - 2013-02-28 13:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: illirdor
Herp derp its says 500 k subs wich means 500 k subscriptions how hard is it to understand that.... and yea if you have 3 accounts then you count for 3 subscriptions.... class dimissed tomorrow we talk about breathing

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#49 - 2013-02-28 13:54:25 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network.


That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule).


I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-02-28 13:59:19 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
dexington wrote:

Guess you never tried rolling on splinters in naxxramas, bindings in molten core or the phoenix in tempest keep... you should try playing an mmo where you can't just plex back what you loose.


Hehe I was there for all of them. Plus the STR + AGI super rare MC ring also called "guild breaker" because the 2 times a year it'd drop, it was claimed by half the guild, each had accumulating 1 trillion DKP to buy it. Let's say that the loot losers would not take it nicely.



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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-02-28 14:03:21 UTC
500k subscriptions, not subscribers is an important factual distinction.

However, it still means 500k subscriptions worth of irl spacebux, which is really the key point. The only difference being that when Eve actually does die, it's gonna die quickly and with finality as they lose multiple subscriptions for each actual human that stops playing. A good incentive to keep that train chugging and numbers climbing.

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Vince Snetterton
#52 - 2013-02-28 14:32:15 UTC
It would be incredibly easy for CCP to release the TQ and the Chinese numbers separately, and we could get a real picture of how TQ is doing.

Given how this forum caters to the TQ crowd, I find it interesting that CCP does not provide the TQ only numbers.

The other thing they could do is see how many unique IP's are represented, and if that number is growing or shrinking.
It is by no means a perfect counter, of course, given some ISP's provide randomized IP's, but it might be a start to see if the subscriber base is narrowing or broadening.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2013-02-28 14:38:43 UTC
EVE is dying.
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#54 - 2013-02-28 14:41:25 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network.


That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule).


I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good.



Please let me know if you need some help with that.

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Karig'Ano Keikira
Tax Cheaters
#55 - 2013-02-28 14:48:46 UTC
I wonder about statistics such as avg # of alts, median # of alts and total # of alts,
would be nice to see :)
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#56 - 2013-02-28 14:49:27 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
EVE is dying.

we must get the most from it before it shuts down for the last time.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-02-28 15:05:31 UTC
EnderCapitalG wrote:
"Subscribers" is wholly misleading. You do not have 500,000 subscribers but 500,000 accounts. In a game where multiboxing is heavily prioritized, this is an outright lie.


It pays the bills or it gets the hose again.

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Vladkar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-02-28 15:17:43 UTC
WOOOOOT!!!!!!

GG CCP!!!!! 07
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#59 - 2013-02-28 15:26:53 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
I wonder what the breakdown between servers and games is…


To be clear, the 500k number includes both our TQ and Serenity (Chinese) servers, but only includes subscribing EVE Online accounts, not Dust accounts.


How many of the 500k are TQ?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#60 - 2013-02-28 15:28:24 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Confirming that every single character in EVE is actually part of my vast alt network.


That can't be right, CCP employees aren't allowed to suicide gank (silly rule).


I'm only suicide ganking my own characters so it's all good.


CCP Fozzie: the only true suicide ganker.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016