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CSM chair declaring war on CCP, tells players to bring gasoline.

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morons.
#81 - 2011-09-06 23:04:03 UTC
Matches and gasoline are nothing to play with, mkay kids?

But yeah - not sure why goons are getting mad now either - there is no imminent threat, SCs will get nerfed to oblivion, so there is no future threat to their sov, PL is leaving the north, abandoning their tech moons and bots don't care if they have new ships to fly anyway...

Odd timing.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#82 - 2011-09-06 23:08:10 UTC
I was just listening to that radio show. It sounds like this Mitanni guy is trying to win back some people he may have angered? Personally, I don't entirely agree with his opinion. He did say something along the lines of Nullsec being short on ISK and although I haven't dedicated a huge amount of time to Null, one would think this is where most of the ISK is.

And as far as "dying." I saw a large amount of people that disagreed.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#83 - 2011-09-06 23:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
I was just listening to that radio show. It sounds like this Mitanni guy is trying to win back some people he may have angered? Personally, I don't entirely agree with his opinion. He did say something along the lines of Nullsec being short on ISK and although I haven't dedicated a huge amount of time to Null, one would think this is where most of the ISK is.

And as far as "dying." I saw a large amount of people that disagreed.


yeah its kinda laughable to say theres no isk in null

I wanna send an email as ask if high sec or low sec are gonna get love but I dont know the email lol

lol csm wasnt consulted on the 13 plex thing

HUGE SURPRISE there

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
#84 - 2011-09-06 23:20:49 UTC
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Not going to side with anyone in the debate, just going to say:

Pro journalism = linking to a source that has historically been suspected of keylogging.


I'm sorry but I am unaware of such claims I'm afraid. But then again, I'm no journalist Cool
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#85 - 2011-09-06 23:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Richard Hammond II wrote:


It IS funny, Mittens "doesnt speak for the CSM" but none of the other CSM are talking
MORE funny is the title of the window. "Funky talks to Mittens"
NOT "Funky talks to the CSM"



Im actually wrong in that theyre all talking which is interesting cause in these these things mittens usually does all the talking

"if the pilots are claustrophobic an they hate leaving their pods, WHAT ARE WE WiS?????"
QFT

lol "what are you guys gonna do other than create negative press for EVE?"

Mittens: "a lotta ppl have ******** ideas what to do when youre in power" - He says such as resigning or breaking the NDA - so no releasing the minutes or Mittens actually rebelling guys

and no, he's not gonna retire cause "that would be stupid" lol

Gotta take another shot, Mittens said AGAIN "farmville in space" and "we need stuff to do not to wear" man can he come up with his own material?

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#86 - 2011-09-06 23:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Oh man... WE arent gonna retire or unsub cause that would be stupid for us but what YOU can do is unsub.

Great... Mittens is lining up level 4 missions in highsec directly in his sights.

Fairly obvious how he feels about Highsec

"games should dot be developed in a democratic direction" - Mittani

funny given how he got where he is

Points to the interviewer for pointing this out by the way. He said "isnt the CSM crowdsourcing?" when The Mittani was saying how bad crowdsourcing is lol

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#87 - 2011-09-06 23:51:56 UTC
Tiven loves Tansien wrote:
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Not going to side with anyone in the debate, just going to say:

Pro journalism = linking to a source that has historically been suspected of keylogging.


lolVeto

LolLolLolLolLolLol


Post with main, etc. Blink
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#88 - 2011-09-06 23:56:23 UTC
"I dont think doing what the mob wants is a good idea, but you throw them a bit of cake now and again"

nice...

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Dustin Roac
#89 - 2011-09-06 23:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Dustin Roac
well that's about it for whatever hopeful views of the csm I had. (after listening to the radio broadcast)

They are just a tool for CCP to use, nothing else. Always have been. Good intentions, but expectations and self flattery that has spawned from them defeat it's purpose.

And what I find hilarious are the ones that claim they have 'connections' and pound concrete to the media over these issues.

NO csm, those media outlets have connections with you because they will always try to get you to talk for as you said, website hits. They don't care a bit about you otherwise, or CCP and EVE for that matter.

The EGO that has grown of this group, to think that they have an ability to call for the player base to do something and the crowds will listen and follow, is just unbelievable. The preaching done by mittens and the lot thinking they know what's best for the whole of EVE makes me gag, CCP just needs to yank the CSM program and wipe it's hands of it.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#90 - 2011-09-07 00:01:07 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:

"games should dot be developed in a democratic direction" - Mittani

funny given how he got where he is

l



He ordered goons to vote for him?
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#91 - 2011-09-07 00:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Dustin Roac wrote:
well that's about it for whatever hopeful views of the csm I had. (after listening to the radio broadcast)

They are just a tool for CCP to use, nothing else. Always have been. Good intentions, but expectations and self flattery that has spawned from them defeat it's purpose.

And what I find hilarious are the ones that claim they have 'connections' and pound concrete to the media over these issues.

NO csm, those media outlets have connections with you because they will always try to get you to talk for as you said, website hits. They don't care a bit about you otherwise, or CCP and EVE for that matter.

The EGO that has grown of this group, to think that they have an ability to call for the player base to do something and the crowds will listen and follow, is just unbelievable. The preaching done by mittens and the lot thinking they know what's best for the whole of EVE makes me gag, CCP just needs to yank the CSM program and wipe it's hands of it.


Pretty much. The only thing I learned about this is its not just the Mittani, its the whole CSM that feel the same way.
We (those of us in highsec) need a CSM representative. A whole lowsec (mind you he couldnt even remember the name of the one lowsec guy he was that important to Mittens)/0.0 CSM (even as ineffectual as they are) whispering in CCP's ear is bad for the ppl that dont have representation.

Honestly, and this isnt cause I want the game to die but for a reason Ill make more clear in a second, I hope CCP stands up to the CSM, disbands them, tells them to go screw themselves or something. Simply put because if they bend to their pressure, whats to stop the CSM from doing this kind of thing every time they want a change. Then the CSM really WILL have become a monster.

Large Collidable Object wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:

"games should dot be developed in a democratic direction" - Mittani

funny given how he got where he is

l



He ordered goons to vote for him?


The democratic system (flawed as it is in this game) got him to the CSM but he thinks there shouldnt be such systems in games. Maybe he realizes just how much damage he can do lol

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Flamespar
WarRavens
#92 - 2011-09-07 00:13:10 UTC
I am so sick of Mitten's bullshit.

I enjoy Incarna and what it will bring to the game. I'm ok with the fact that others don't.

I don't wet my knickers CSM-style whenever the features I don't enjoy get development time over those features that I do. I'm not the only person that f**king plays this game after all.

I also don't collapse into an infantile rage whenver I am 'forced' to do something in the game that I dont want to, like refuelling a POS.

(from the EVEnews24 website)
Quote:
The last true ‘EVE’ expansions besides Incursions we had was, ****, years ago

So except for the expansion (Incursion) that he remembers but chooses to dismiss, And of course Dominion that he seems to have forgotten about, we have had no FiS expansion. Riiiiight.

Quote:
Tyrannis, however, ate two expansion cycles to bring us PI, which basically no one uses, as a planned eventual dust link. But it doesn’t offer any real gameplay for EVE players.

So except for the people that do use it (unless POSs everywhere are running without fuel), and do enjoy it. No-one uses it. Cause Mittens says so. No need for anything like .. oh I don't know ... evidence to back your arguements up?

Hi my name is Mittens, and I haz a CSM. Therefor my opinion is more important than evidence to the contrary.
Talia Nachtigall
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2011-09-07 00:14:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Talia Nachtigall
I find this entire situation completely unacceptable. The whole "meeting minutes" situation is really starting to **** me off. We've been more than patient and frankly - my patience level is starting to significantly drop. If CCP doesn't do the right thing and I mean soon, they're going to lose another two accounts and the possibility of me even being remotely interested in Dust 514 and WoD will completely vanish.

For now - I place my hopes in the CSM. They're our voice. Let's just hope those at CCP sitting on their thrones cannot keep ignore the peasants which support them.

---

PS: Furthermore I completely agree with Mitten's position. There has been a serious lack of "EVE-content" in the expansions lately. No trailers, no new features, and hardly any real content expansions.

Don't pray for my soul. ;)

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#94 - 2011-09-07 00:17:33 UTC
Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play?

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Barakkus
#95 - 2011-09-07 00:49:30 UTC
/yawn

Who cares anyways?
When the game no longer is fun for you, find something else. When I finally get bored, I'll move on, until then, this is just stupid e-drama, and an ego boost for the members of the CSM for their illustrious non-positions within the community.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#96 - 2011-09-07 02:10:36 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
/yawn

Who cares anyways?
When the game no longer is fun for you, find something else. When I finally get bored, I'll move on, until then, this is just stupid e-drama, and an ego boost for the members of the CSM for their illustrious non-positions within the community.


yeah well ignoring them doesnt work either due to the fact CCP listens to them for some reason

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2011-09-07 02:47:34 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play?

calling it now, Mittani is gonna ditch the whole "0.0 lobbying" thing and go straight to campaigning on a pro-PI platform.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#98 - 2011-09-07 03:24:27 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play?

calling it now, Mittani is gonna ditch the whole "0.0 lobbying" thing and go straight to campaigning on a pro-PI platform.


you mean "farmville in space" he said it at least 15 times

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#99 - 2011-09-07 04:05:27 UTC
I read this thread.
I read what Mittani wrote.
Looked around that Kugu site, browsing the convos about 0.0

Here's a puzzle, for people who say they don't care about the game and bump into walls all the time, they sure know why , when and how a system fell the other day. A system that oh, 95% of the players have never heard of unless it's mentioned in the login page news. Also a great depth of knowledge about SC blobs, hot drops, logistics, intel as well as all the meta gaming that can be applied.
I am reminded of Frank Zappa, sticking his finger up at high-tech studio production while at the same time up to his ears in it when it suited him.
This in high contrast to straight-out ignorance of activities like PI and mission running that (face it) most of eve is doing.

Think I've figured it out. We have here people who want to have it both ways, shrug and giggle when they lose, pump their fists in the air when they win, and all the while dramaqueen it up about issues they distort into calamities. Infantile.

tl;dr: for the livestock --- dramaqueens are playing a different game than you are.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#100 - 2011-09-07 04:13:09 UTC
He is just paraphrasing and mouthing off what everyone else has been saying all along. Chiming in late only fools some people.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.