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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
#1 - 2013-02-26 19:29:41 UTC
I'm in my own 1 person corporation and I have a POS up in high sec.

I'm considering hopping over to another corp. I have two concerns:

1) I know that a POS can't be individually owned, it can only be owned by a corp. Does this mean I'd be giving POS access to my new CEO and directors? If so, what exactly could they do? Take it down?

2) Standings. If my current POS switches over to this new corp and they don't have enough standings to keep it anchored in that high security space, what happens?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2013-02-26 19:34:56 UTC
Actually, your pos will continue to belong to your one person corp. It doesn't move with you (not actually sure what will happen if you're the last person there. But it doesn't move with you)


As for 2, while it's not directly relevant, the only time standings are checked (atm) for POS is when they're anchored.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2013-02-26 19:36:56 UTC
Gustovness wrote:


2) Standings. If my current POS switches over to this new corp and they don't have enough standings to keep it anchored in that high security space, what happens?



Once anchored, always anchored.

Taking it down while in a standings-lacking Corp will indeed alter the ability to re-anchor.

My advice....join that corp. Just don't tell them you have a POS. Although they might be able to see it in the S & I Window. I'm not sure on that though. Never done this particular thing.

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Ginger Barbarella
#4 - 2013-02-26 19:39:53 UTC
Create an alt, train him up to Corp Mgmt L1, make him CEO, go do your thing. You can't do a damn thing with it if you're not in that corp, so if you want to keep it running for whatever (isk making outside the new corp), just build an alt to keep it.

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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
#5 - 2013-02-26 20:17:03 UTC
Ok, great answers so far.

So I make my alt and have them hold the corp for me. I still can't run research jobs or anything even if I have the star base password then?
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#6 - 2013-02-26 20:32:36 UTC
Gustovness wrote:
Ok, great answers so far.

So I make my alt and have them hold the corp for me. I still can't run research jobs or anything even if I have the star base password then?

Sorry the answer is NO.

In normal circumstances all your research/manufacturing alts should stay in the old corp and only your main is free to join other corps.



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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-02-26 23:47:19 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Actually, your pos will continue to belong to your one person corp. It doesn't move with you (not actually sure what will happen if you're the last person there. But it doesn't move with you)

If you are the last person in the corp, the corp will be closed. Any towers will go offline, and any wars will be ended.

I created a corp once, and closed it about an hour later after remembering standings take a week.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-02-26 23:50:55 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:


I created a corp once, and closed it about an hour later after remembering standings take a week.



Yup. And that is an effect that definitely needs to go away with any "POS Revamp" being implemented.

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-02-27 17:38:29 UTC
and now may have to cmoe and hunt own that 1 man corp in high sec with some friends and take down ur Pos for you tke away the worry off havig to moveit
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2013-02-27 17:41:55 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
and now may have to cmoe and hunt own that 1 man corp in high sec with some friends and take down ur Pos for you tke away the worry off havig to moveit



Shocked

Either 9 years old or the alcohol has kicked in.........

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-02-27 19:02:14 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
and now may have to cmoe and hunt own that 1 man corp in high sec with some friends and take down ur Pos for you tke away the worry off havig to moveit



Shocked

Either 9 years old or the alcohol has kicked in.........

No just a long day. And this stupid phone. Messes up spelling a lot lolz
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2013-02-27 20:08:33 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
and now may have to cmoe and hunt own that 1 man corp in high sec with some friends and take down ur Pos for you tke away the worry off havig to moveit



Shocked

Either 9 years old or the alcohol has kicked in.........

No just a long day. And this stupid phone. Messes up spelling a lot lolz



I guess so indeed.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#13 - 2013-02-27 20:09:24 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Gustovness wrote:


2) Standings. If my current POS switches over to this new corp and they don't have enough standings to keep it anchored in that high security space, what happens?



Once anchored, always anchored.

Taking it down while in a standings-lacking Corp will indeed alter the ability to re-anchor.

My advice....join that corp. Just don't tell them you have a POS. Although they might be able to see it in the S & I Window. I'm not sure on that though. Never done this particular thing.


The only way to keep your POS when switching to a new corp is to take it down, and set it back up under the new corp after you move.

Not only do you need to trust anyone with POS access in the new corp, but they have to trust you enough to grant you POS roles or you will not be able to use it yourself.

POSes belong to the corp. if you leave it up when you leave your current corp the POS will remain there, owned by that now dead corp, and you will no longer be able to access it. it will run until it runs out of fuel, and then will go offline. You will not be able to recover it without wardecing your old corp, even then you will need to destroy the tower to recover the other modules.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2013-02-27 20:16:35 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
You will not be able to recover it without wardecing your old corp, even then you will need to destroy the tower to recover the other modules.



Most indeed. And it sounds like something hilarious to do ! Big smile

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#15 - 2013-02-27 21:34:02 UTC
you can always convince them to let your corp join their alliance.

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Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-02-27 21:53:59 UTC
As others have said if you join a new corp you have to take it down or set an alt as the CEO. If you leave the corp without taking the POS down first (basically disbanding the corp) you will lose the POS.

You can setup your alt as the CEO and if your new corp allows you to leave and come back you can leave the new corp, join your alt corp and setup new jobs, and then leave and rejoin the new corp. The jobs will contiinue to run and if you set the jobs as corp jobs the alt will be able to complete them.

Most likely your new corp CEO wont want to deal with you leaving/joining every few days, so setting up 20-30 day jobs would be best. You're employment history will also look bad if that concerns you at all.

The other option is to take down the POS, join the new corp and then setup the POS in the new corp, but this requires the new corp to give you alot of access to things they may not want you to have access to.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#17 - 2013-02-28 04:08:13 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:

The other option is to take down the POS, join the new corp and then setup the POS in the new corp, but this requires the new corp to give you alot of access to things they may not want you to have access to.

And the new corp must have enough faction standings to anchor the tower.

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