EVE General Discussion

No they're not.

They should be - but they're not. They'd ***** if CCP gave out free Titans every day for a week.

Well, seems CCP really needs to be a lot more selective when choosing specific words to describe something. Using the term 'Limited Engagement' is very misleading to say the least, just like the term 'High Security'.

Limited basically means restricted or confined whereas unlimited means no restriction or confinement. If it was indeed limited, then it would stop with the destruction of a players ship and not their pod, especially in high security. Shouldn't it be called 'Unlimited Engagement' since it basically ends with a pod killing?

Anyway, CCP has made it abundantly clear (in writing) that pod killing is allowed in high security when engaged in a 'Limited Engagement' duel. No Concord action or loss of security status will be incurred.

Of course this brings up another question :
Is there a warning / message box in game that states this information when players in high security request or accept a duel?

For example :


I guess the same question could also apply to players who intend to initiate an attack on a suspect or criminal in high security. They're also entering into a 'Limited Engagement', correct?


Just thought I'd bring that up due to the fact that not everyone in-game browses the forums or reads the Evelopedia. At the very least it should help lower the amount of petitions being filed..


DMC

Actually they should and in the past have changed names and or text pertaining to in-game aspects. But hey, seems like you're saying that logic and plain English is just too complicated to comprehend.

Probably the reason for calling it 'Limited Engagement' is due to it's time factor. That terminology could also be used to portray the personal aspect of the encounter. I think that's highly doubtful since lot's of people can easily become involved. When I see the term 'Limited Engagement', that leads me to think there's restrictions in place with a set of rules to govern the engagement..not 'Anything Goes' for a set amount of time.

That's like using the word 'Bad' to describe something good, most would take it at face value and not actually perceive it as being 'Good'. The point is not everyone is 'Down wit slang, ya know'. Not to mention there's different types of slang and different meanings as well.

Don't know where this came from - "they will point and laugh and circle your petition around the office to snicker at behind your back" - but since you seem to have a direct connection with Dev's in Iceland, maybe you can ask them to clarify why they deliberately pick misleading words to describe various in-game aspects.


DMC

Well played CCP, well played indeed & here was me thinking you were dumbing down the game & allowing carebear pillow fights when what you were actually doing was stealth introducing a mechanic to fuel our spaceships with yet moar tears.

Ave CCP, Nos morituri te salutant velit o7

Ah yes, I got podded in my first duel. Flying a crapfit Ferox against a Rupture who clearly knew what he was doing.

I'm not entirely surprised I got podded though. Just miffed that I forgot docking requests had a longass delay. Then again, I had like 10mil in my head and the guy ransomed my Ferox for 50mil (the fits was only like 40mil cumulative), so I declined his offer and he exploded me.

Then I remembered that you're supposed to warp to a nearby something. Oh well. Although I will say that the podding animation is really bad because at first I thought I survived and got into the station.

I bet a lot of high SP players just flushed this feature. I thought this was going to be a casual fun thing to do, didn't know it was going to be a stealth null sec training scenario...

*Grabs more popcorn*

Yeah, OK.

That's like saying firing a Nuclear Missile is just a 'Limited Engagement' since it can be done very quickly. I will admit it would definitely make the engagement 'Brief'. I wouldn't use the term 'Limited Engagement' to describe it though.

'Limited Engagement' means that one party or all parties involved have placed limits and or restrictions in the engagement, ie, using conventional weapons instead of using Nuclear / Chemical weapons, etc.

Anyway, this topic is now a dead horse.

I agree.

This could have been a very good isk sink as well as a way to interest or coax PvE players into doing some PvP combat. Since it's a new mechanic just added to the game, the dueling option will probably get used for a while. However, due to getting podded enough times, players will just end up going back to can flipping to do their ship dueling.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. Good luck to everyone participating in the so called 'Limited Engagement' high security combat.


DMC

The podding feature included in "dueling" was available for testing on Singularity.

I wasn't aware that the old can trick to legally start a fight kept people from podding each other.