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CONCORD should charge for their services.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-27 16:38:39 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


You already do.

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#22 - 2013-02-27 16:42:31 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P



Hahaha, I absolutely agree!

Charge criminals an appropriate fine for their nefarious and immoral activities in high sec to fund CONCORD.

Seems fair, trolololololTwisted
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2013-02-27 16:44:03 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


I pay a district, regional and national tax for those services! That being said, technically some capsuleers do pay concord. Since concord is like the UN as it should be, by paying the 11% npc tax npc corp players are paying by proxy. It is the one man corps and so on that aren't paying for concord - they're a bunch of tax dodging freeloaders who get all the protection of concord without paying into the system at any level where concord is paid from. dang nammit!

edit: added a comma


But we already pay tax to be protected by CONCORD and get access to stations and gates and stuff. What do you think your subscription pays for?
It's Pilot License EXtension, after all.


FAIL.

Not all accounts are paid for with PLEX. Duh.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2013-02-27 16:45:26 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


You already do.



And ambulances.....

Wow, what a fail argument point that was most indeed.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-27 16:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
EI Digin wrote:
I have a better idea

Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.


You mean something like War Decs?

Great job CCP! You have come out with features before the idea gets posted on the forums!

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#26 - 2013-02-27 17:34:22 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
But we already pay tax to be protected by CONCORD and get access to stations and gates and stuff. What do you think your subscription pays for?
It's Pilot License EXtension, after all.


It pays for the license on the body-pod interface technology. Just like any RL piece of subscription software you might license.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-02-27 17:54:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
This basically is a different way to phrase the trolling of CCP Tuxford.

When you create a new corp, you're at war with everybody and have to declare peace.

I still think it has huge potential.

edit: peace, not piece. lol
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2013-02-27 18:09:31 UTC
Why not just make it that Concord only acts on those in NPC corps.
Pay the tax or go it alone is your choice.
So they will protect if you are NPC and blow you up if same.
Runeme Shilter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-02-27 19:02:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Captain Tardbar wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
I have a better idea

Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.


You mean something like War Decs?

Great job CCP! You have come out with features before the idea gets posted on the forums!


Huh? How do I wardec a specific group of people, like Femto01, Femto02, Femto03 (etc) till Femto52?

Is there some feature I have missed? Can you quote the patch notes?


Fixed the links for you. ISD Ezwal
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#30 - 2013-02-27 19:13:06 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P

Indeed, I think it is time 20 billion (or even more) loot pinatas pay for the trouble they cause in highsec.

A freighter pilot putting more than 20 billion worth in his cargo hold should pay a fine of 10% of the value destroyed for causing riot and disorder and Concord having to be called in order to clean up the mess.

And please do not forget: Concord is not running a protection scheme. Concord is punishing aggressors. It's time those inciting aggression stand up to their faults.

Remove standings and insurance.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#31 - 2013-02-27 19:14:52 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
You must be one of those people who believe we should pay so the police/fire department come to our homes irl


Who do you think pays them? Mystical money fountains at the end of rainbows?


Isn't that what a fiat economy is? Lol
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Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-02-27 19:15:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Runeme Shilter wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
I have a better idea

Let's make it so that you can spend ISK to let CONCORD look the other way if you shoot certain groups of people.


You mean something like War Decs?

Great job CCP! You have come out with features before the idea gets posted on the forums!

Huh? How do I wardec a specific group of people, like Femto01, Femto02, Femto03 (etc) till Femto52?

Is there some feature I have missed? Can you quote the patch notes?


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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-02-27 19:26:38 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
And of course it should be the attacker that pays. And if his wallet goes negative, he cannot board a ship other than a shuttle until its positive.


nah, safety should come at a price too

such as l4 and incursion rewards being 10% of what they are now

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-02-27 19:28:47 UTC
you see if the police showed up at your house within 30 seconds of someone breaking in, without even being called or alerted by an alarm system, we'd be paying massive amounts of money in taxes

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#35 - 2013-02-27 19:43:11 UTC
Dear Pilot,

Here is the Invoice for services rendered while attempting to save your vessel. While your vessel was lost well before our arrival on scene, and your pod was subsequently lost also before our arrival, the fact of the matter is that several CONCORD drones were deployed and ammo was used to destroy the offenders vessel. We of course are not allowed to destroy the pod of the offender, which of course would be fair retribution for the acts commited upon your person, so we allowed him to go free.We did however dock him a trivial amount of secuity status. We apologize for the inconvienience.

Invoice for CONCORD police reponse:

Cap booster expenditure for OMGWTF infinite distance warp scramble ; 2,754,430.23 ISK.
Ammo expenditure to destroy offending vessel: 4,589,239.11 ISK.
Drone fuel : 2,987 ISK.
Misc taxes and Fees : 12,788,499.99.

Total amount autowithdrawn from you wallet for services rendered: 20,135,156.33 ISK

Thank you for using CONCORD, and have a wonderful rest of your day.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-02-27 19:50:14 UTC
You all are funny thinking Concord protects you or offers some sort of safety net....
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-02-27 20:01:52 UTC
Or, we could have and encourage players to become members of CONCORD and the DED. They get paid to patrol and respond to any incidents and deliver justice accordingly. To balance this out, the power and response time of NPC CONCORD would be severely nerfed, but still existent to provide ample defense in the higher security hi-sec systems.

If profitable enough and fun enough, there would be plenty of people willing to do the job and would make Hi-sec much more interesting and dynamic.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#38 - 2013-02-27 20:02:39 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
it's only fair.

It's an isk-sink.

1.0 systems could be cheaper, and 0.5 systems more expensive to represent appropriate deployment costs.

Billing could be a base fee, plus modifications for value of ships destroyed in teh process of protecting the innocent, modified by the above divisor.

CONCORD should simply refuse to protect folks that don't pay the bill.

yes? P



So...With all the easy ganking in highsec, it's still not easy enough for you? Shocked



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Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-02-27 20:44:04 UTC
they do charge.

They charge the huge NPC empires that compose high sec.

these huge empires tax players on more or less everything.

therefore players already pay for concord.

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#40 - 2013-02-27 20:48:43 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
YES. I support this. A 50M ISK or so monthly payment or CONCORD won't respond (mmmmmm.....maybe taking effect after 6 months from character creation).

EDIT: This is the most interesting idea I've seen tossed out there in a LONG time. One is also flagged as to not having paid up.

It's a bit too lenient for my liking (I'd prefer three months) but I must say it's a good idea.

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