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One other thing Myanna, who is the 5 best suited to a discussion.

Lets say it is on Null sov and industry. So does that mean the 5 that go to Iceland should be Null sec people?
Or should it be people from all areas like Hi-sec,Lo-sec, Wormholes and Null.
Or should it be people whole focus on the game as a whole like Malancis for example?

So what type of people do you believe should be in those 5?

Up until this devblog this topic has been largely CCP Xhagen's baby with input from CCP Veritas. Did you have any hand in either the decision to change or the specifics of the change itself?

Also, I'm curious to hear how much thought and consideration went into whether or not a drastic alteration of the voting system (from the flawed but incredibly simple FPTP with no primary to a far more complex STV with a primary) and the CSM rules themselves (CSM picks chair, new 2+5 to Iceland system) could seriously hinder your plans to increase voter turnout?



Nah. If anyone's forced to vote on a thing in a video game (presumably some kind of "you can't login and play until you vote" thing), they're going to pick whatever option they can to get where they want as fast as they can (and they're going to scream bloody murder about having to do it afterwards). Certainly not something that's going to hurt organized blocs, at any rate.

There's also the issue of whether CCP just wants more votes, or more participants in the CSM system. If your numbers go up but it's just a load of players Donkey Voting and then ignoring the CSM until the next time they're forced to look, then what value is that?

In Australia the politicians call it a mandate from the people, even though it is illegal and subsequently a fineable offense if you don't vote.
While a compulsory vote would give a majority council and make the Null sec groups into the small minorities that they actually are, I worry that with so many people voting because they have too, we may end up with a CSM full of Darius III's as people will just vote and not bother learning about the candidates.

But hell that might be a better option than a council composed almost entirely of the Null sec Lobby
*Joke* at least the Null sec lobby will try to get something done.

But anyway after this STV nonsense they may have to give away free titans to get people to vote, in the who knows where your vote goes election.

I'd welcome a more such complex abstaintion on 2 levels:
1) Given more choices it'd make a fast non vote more difficult & prod people to vote for real anyways
2) That information would give us ( & Eve marketing ) more real information on majority of Eve's population's mindset for thier desires ( or lack) toward the future of the game.

Just have the first option always be "Compulsory voting should be removed". Surely the people suggesting the system have enough confidence in it to be up to that challenge.

Seriously speaking I think the biggest issue would be, that currently you offer an entertainment service for a subscription. Players then pay it and in turn get access to your servers and the service. With mandatory voting you're basicly telling them, that they now owe you a duty to vote and you're going to deny them access to the service they paid for until they fulfill that duty they owe to you. I just can't see that ending well for you in any scenario. You sell a service and every eligible voter has paid you for it. We don't owe you anything, so it's just a matter of how badly trying to force the issue ends up for you.

I would prefer something flashing in the NeoCom, but at least this is better than your original idea, which was to give everyone a permanent suspect flag until they voted.

Instead of penalizing non voters, why not give voters a bonus?

Like the ability to have kill rights on all out going members of the CSM for 4 months after they leave.

Personally I think we should give a big red icon on the forum avatar of every character that did not vote in the most recent CSM election (if they were active at that point).

Then let us Devs filter their posts out of our feedback threads.



Just kidding (mostly).

Gratz! You've won "Worst joke of the year" award!