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Invest? Yes, but where...

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Macalt
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-26 08:56:37 UTC
Greetings fellow Citizens :)

I've been an EVE player for 2 months. I've done mostly mining (while learning diffirent skills and trying to understand the game). However, recently, I've made some profitable transactions (no scams and stuff!) and made 1 bil ISK, which right now I wonder where to put/invest. Thus I would like to ask You for advice, what could I do with such amount of money, so I can make profit, instead of just buying couple of ships and go and be killed in some God forgotten LS space ;)
I am really confused, so please, be honest with Your advices - don't try to cinvince me that if I give You all that, You will double it, and stuff like that...
So, what are my options? :)

Live long and prosper (erm, wrong game ;) )
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2013-02-26 10:08:02 UTC
Well, there's station trading. Which can be profitable, if risky. Or stocking a mission hub. Or setting up your own production lines.

All involved some risk, and effort.

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Macalt
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-02-26 10:17:32 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, there's station trading. Which can be profitable, if risky. Or stocking a mission hub. Or setting up your own production lines.

All involved some risk, and effort.


Stocking a mission hub? I'm afraid I have no idea what it is... can You be more specific on that matter please?
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#4 - 2013-02-26 10:25:20 UTC
Places with lots of high level mission agents, mostly security, in turn draw in lots of high level mission runners. They need ammo, and ships, and spare drones, etc. That makes those stations/systems ideal for selling off large quantities of goods.

Faction Warfare hubs even moreso, as they lose ships a lot faster. Find a FW station one jump from a lowsec entry point and dump all the ship hulls & weapons you can on that market, especially the kind that can be upgraded into Navy ships with LPs.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#5 - 2013-02-26 10:41:20 UTC
Mission hubs are also good to buy stuff in to then ship on to a trade hub. Some people are lazy, they just sell their loot to buy orders. You can regularly buy stuff in a mission hub, and double your isk by shipping to a trade hub.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Macalt
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-02-26 10:48:47 UTC
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-02-26 11:00:48 UTC
Mainly station trading. Sit in a station such as jita. Set buy orders for items at low prices and set sell orders as higher prices so you make profit on the margin. It's more complicated then that but that's basically what you do. There are lots of guides if you Google station trading. Highly profitable, very easy.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2013-02-26 12:22:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Macalt
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-02-27 07:45:31 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.


That's something I have to get more into - do You have any sites which treat about PI in general and in details?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2013-02-27 09:00:44 UTC
Macalt wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.


That's something I have to get more into - do You have any sites which treat about PI in general and in details?

Planetary Interaction Tutorial
Planetary Interaction Material Diagram
http://eveplanets.com/
Macalt
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-02-27 09:38:55 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.


That's something I have to get more into - do You have any sites which treat about PI in general and in details?

Planetary Interaction Tutorial
Planetary Interaction Material Diagram
http://eveplanets.com/


That's a lot of usefull stuff - thank You!
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#12 - 2013-02-27 10:30:35 UTC
If you are going for PI, a man of your wealth should be able to afford a few scout frigates and an Industrial with some Warp Core Stabilizers. You could opt to do PI in lowsec. Off course there are risks involved, but they are pretty easy to mitigate. Planets have better yield outside of hisec and because players can conquer the customs offices, you may find a few with very nice tax for neutrals. Or you could strike a deal with the owner of the customs office you want to use. It's a little more engaging.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-02-27 15:37:57 UTC
send it to me. i'll double it ;)

I should buy an Ishtar.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-02-27 16:57:43 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
send it to me. i'll double it ;)


Send it to me and I will invest it in my PvP ships.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#15 - 2013-02-28 08:20:53 UTC
Important to remember that the game is full of scammers, so never trust anyone who offers to "double" your ISK or even offer a percentage on your investment.

Seriously

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Macalt
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-02-28 11:41:54 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Important to remember that the game is full of scammers, so never trust anyone who offers to "double" your ISK or even offer a percentage on your investment.

Seriously


Yes, that is the thing I'm quite good aware of, but thank You anyway :)




@Inxentas Ultramar - I have to try this tomorrow, after I get some proper feeling of PI. Though I'm quite HS carebear, hehe, but well, sooner I go out from my savehole, the better :)
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#17 - 2013-02-28 14:11:02 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.


And then, yes, in general high sec is less profitable than low/null sec.
Macalt
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-03-01 10:12:56 UTC
Chal0ner wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Macalt wrote:
Quite interesting options - thank You for Your advices! :)

Anything else I could be interested in taking part of? I've heard that Planetary Interaction is somewhat not much profitable in HS - is that true?


I run 5 planets in hisec, just producing p1 products I pull in 150 million isk a month from them.


And then, yes, in general high sec is less profitable than low/null sec.



I wonder if anyone made some deep statistics about how much more profitable is PI in low/null comparing to high sec, including the potential lost of industrial ships used for getting stuff from planets to sell them... If so, I would really like to read about it :)
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#19 - 2013-03-01 10:22:13 UTC
Make a second account, create an orca alt and massively increase your mining yield, it helps you with hauling and your main can focus training on fun things while the alt does the tedious bit.
Niveuss Nye
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-03-01 11:55:44 UTC
One possibility if you do not want to have to deal with the intense competition at trade hubs or mission hubs is in low sec.

You see, pirates and many faction war participants often get sec status hits. This means that getting stuff in high sec becomes
a problem without a grind or an alt account.

You can sell for a bit more in FW areas certain items for a fair but not extortion mark up.

What items is up to you. But I suggest looking into what the customers like and usually use and specialize in a few products to start.
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